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Date:: 02 Jul 1999
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It's 11:30PM Friday nite and I am cruising with my little bro and my girlfriend Nancy. We were headed for Queens (Flushing) to see if there are any sport cars to race. I got there in 20minutes and realized everything was pretty much dead. There were hardly any cars on the road. We couldn't believe it. Though disappointed, the fact that we couldn't find anybody to race did not throw us down, for I knew I still had my turbos to "boost" around with.hehehehe On our way back we saw a caravan of sport compacts hehehehe. Mostly civics, integras, eclipse, and a MKIV Twin turbo. hehehe I was excited!! The red supra had a cool body kit along with a GTR spoiler and a HKS Hiper exhaust. Even by looking at it, the car looked fast! The caravan was going at the most 80MPH! and where passing everybody. They saw me and immediately cut in front of me. I was very pissed cuz it's like dispising GTO owners. So, I, disregarding my girlfriend's plead not to race with 'em, downshifted to 3rd and my turbos immediately spool up. I manage to go around the traffic and reach the supra's bumper. hehehehe then, I immediately pull right next to the supped up supra and give him a go signal. Then, we both floor the ****in' pedal and we are off!!!! hehehehehhe I was still on third at about 3-4k rpm at 70MPH. I reckoned that about 75-80MPH the supra's second turbo would go online, so I stepped on the throttle till I floor the damn thing! I shift to 4rd at 6600rpm. The supra was gaining on me cuz my car was almost maxed out of horsepower. However, this did not make me quit. I was still spooling my turbos. I see that my turbo gauge registers 16psi (cuz of EVCez and Apex Super AFC 2). My boost was constant but the supra and I were side by side now. HE was pretty quick. I think he had a boost controller too, but not sure. Well, being at 16psi and shifting up to 5th @~148MPH(Which I hardly ever use), I realized that the supra was slowly falling behind hehehehehe. at a rate of 5MPH. hehehehehee Which makes my road kill another hard-earned victory for us GTO owners! It was an exhilarating nite hehehehe and my car was running like **** cuz it was a 80 degree F with high humidity. Plus, the fact that I was not running on Sunoco Ultra 94Octane gas! Keep boosting guys!!!

Fastboy

Date:: 02 Jul 1999
Time:: 10:23:48
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I forgot to mention that the stock 92 GTO T/T is not really as good as the others but done up completely is the best car in Gran Turismo.

To the guy with the Civic; I got to give you props on your car man but whatever you do to it, it will always be a Civic. Oh, and lose the centre lines, those are for American muscle. I recommend something with a metallic blue outline on the rim.

Hard decision between the new Trans Am and the older VR-4. I don't know what I would do if I was in your position but I'm already set for winter. I have driven the 95 Trans Am Ram Air and it really sucked in the rain. I touched the gas a bit and it felt like I was driving on ice. The new Traction Control will probably work if they sell it but I don't think you'll be getting uphill in this car. But you should really ask RatedZ, he's the Fbody specialist in here.

Ioannis

Date:: 02 Jul 1999
Time:: 15:01:14
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Thanks for the "boost," Ioannis, but I'm by far no expert :) I just know from experience :)

I don't have much problem in rain for the most part, but on certain types of "road," the car has a tendency to lose traction easier. Newly paved blacktop asphault roads are the worst. I don't have much problem on cement. Even with this new traction control system, the Fbody will still be horrible under winter/rain conditions. Granted, it does help A LITTLE BIT, but it's not like it's the solution. Wide performance tires mixed with back wheel drive and a light back end don't mix well with snow. I get a little bit nervous in the rain though, due to the car being prone to hydroplaning because of the wide tires. My best advice is to know how to modulate the pedal under these conditions.

On a last note, Ioannis, what settings do you have for your 1992 GTO in Gran Turismo? I have my brakes set at "9," ride height set at "111," and the dampening set at "5," I believe. On my 1995 GTO MRs, I am running soft racing tires up front, and hard ones in the back. With the GTO, it experiences quite a bit of understeer, but I found this combo to work very well. It gives the car just the right amount of oversteer to slide through the corners.

RatedZ@aol.com

Date:: 02 Jul 1999
Time:: 22:35:47
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"I got to give you props on your car man but whatever you do to it, it will always be a Civic."

Or in other words, you can't polish a turd! &8-)

-Dirty Sanchez

Date:: 04 Jul 1999
Time:: 15:15:25
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I disagree, DirtySanchez...You CAN polish a turd....it would just be a shiny one :)

Date:: 05 Jul 1999
Time:: 09:35:57
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RatedZ

I am currently not playing Gran Turismo as I am just started to play a game called Final Fantasy 7 which is one of the best games for Playstation. But when I was playing Gran Turismo, I was slaughtering everything. 928bhp and 950lb foot of torque. The car's unstopable. Here's something to compete against. I was running the 400 metre in 8-9, I can't really remember. See if you can beet that and tell me what time you got. And when I start playing the game again I'll let you in on my secrets.

Ioannis

Date:: 05 Jul 1999
Time:: 12:34:34
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Ioannis, I've run the 400M in 8.3 in the Skyline, which seemed to be my fastest "short distance" car. However, my 1995 GTO MR is the fastest in the "top speed" portion...I've topped the car at 260mph, but that was not recorded. My top recorded speed was 258mph with the 6spd manual transmission. For most of my regular races, I choose the GTO LM edition. I've set that up pretty good, and it seems to be a great performer. I can get that one to top out at around 230mph or so.

I don't want to get off the subjects of cars, and turn this board into a "Sony Playstation" board, but I have never played FF7. I hear it is a very good game though. The lastest RPG I've bought was Xenogears. It's a fantastic game, and I got heavily into it, but some of the "conversations" are entirely too long. I've sat for an hour before, just reading the dialogue. Other than that, it's a great game. It took me around 70hrs to complete the first time I did it. However, I highly reccomend getting the "cheat book" for it. You will need it. Once you get into Xenogears, it's really good.

Anyway, probably best to get back to 3000GT chat before we get off the subject too much!

Anyway, about racing games, I recently saw a commercial for a racing game for N64. I believe it was Marc that had just purchased an N64. Marc, I forget what the game was called though, unfortunately. If I see the commercial again, I'll be sure to write it down, and post it up here. The graphics looked pretty smooth, and I think it is N64's answer to Gran Turismo. I'll keep you posted.

RatedZ@aol.com

Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 07:23:24
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Dan,

It was me that recently got the N64. If you find out, let me know the name of the game

Larrr VR4

Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 10:59:10
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Now come on guys, you talk about how realistic these new games are with all the detailed information on makes, models and settings, etc. Then you go 260 mph, BULLSH_T!!!!! How realistic is that?

Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 11:10:36
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Now come on guys, you talk about how realistic these new games are with all the adjustable settings and features, handling characteristics, etc. Then you take it to 260 mph, BULLSH*T!!! Their supposed to be race cars, not jet fighters! How realistic is that?

Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 11:20:31
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Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 14:31:29
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Hey all, I just bought a 92VR4. One thing that i have noticed about my car is that when I start the car the it is very hard to put it in the first or reverse gear. is this something normal on every VR4 or is it just mine because after the car warms up they are very smooth. Can someone help me on this.

Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 14:41:03
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Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 15:44:45
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Larry, I'll try and find out what that game is called.

Someone asked, "If these new games are supposed to be so realistic, etc...."

Answer: Well, it may sound unrealistic, but given 944hp along with 818ft/lbs torque,is geared quite optimally, adn weighs 2650lbs, it is VERY possible. The McLaren F1 packs about 625hp and runs at 231mph.

RatedZ@aol.com

Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 19:07:29
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RatedZ, You and I have bonked heads once or twice before and although I agree w/ you entirely on the McClaren F1 => http://suite101.com/article.cfm/cars/6078 :-) I still have a hard time believing that even the best cars in the world can attain 260+ mph. Even the Viper has to hit it's top speed in 5th gear not 6th because the aerodynamic drag is so great at those speeds! The factory VR4 has no speed limiter but the speed limited Supra Turbo can get 3 mph faster because of it's .29 co/drag rating. I have only hit 165 in my VR4 and I actually lose power if I drop 6th unless I up my turbo boost. I realize that race games cannot be too realistic because the game would be over every time you crash. Let me know if you find something solid to back up your claim! James '94HKS/VR4

Date:: 06 Jul 1999
Time:: 19:49:09
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To the person w/ the inquiry, the M3 is speed limited to 137 mph for insurance purposes, the VR4 has a factory top speed of around 155 (drag limited). Switch out both cars computer chips and they would be neck and neck @ 160+! Supe up both cars and don't expect much more from the M3, while the VR4's gearing would climb to clear 180 providing 450+ HP. Good Luck! And, to whoever keeps hitting the "submit story" button more than once lay off the caffeine! James HKS/VR4

Date:: 07 Jul 1999
Time:: 14:18:06
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The VR4's Getrag 6 spd. trany is notorious for being difficult to put into reverse when it is cold. Solution: Put it in first then put it in reverse! I don't know why but it works.

Date:: 08 Jul 1999
Time:: 10:08:48
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To any VR4 fans out there you must check out this site..........http://www.caro.net/sully/frames.php

Date:: 09 Jul 1999
Time:: 20:53:29
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James, the fastest steel-bodied car is a 1991 or 1992 Lingenfelter TransAm. It has the stock body and body panels, I believe. The motor, is of course, heavily modified. I am not sure if it is the messaged stock block in this car. This car runs 298mph.

I was not referring to cars in a real-life situation. I was referring to a video game. But is it possible to go 260mph with 944hp? I believe it would be very possible. Anyone else have any comments?

RatedZ@aol.com

Date:: 10 Jul 1999
Time:: 09:27:14
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My thoughts are just simply that you can’t take a stock GTO supe it up to 944 hp and go run 260 or even 200 mph. Things are very volatile at those speeds. Even for an Indy car to run 230 mph it takes some very fine tuning on the flaps and wings, etc. You run a serious chance of air getting up under the car and you going airborne. Not to mention, you can’t drive a milk carton at those speeds. A friend of mine who has a C5 Corvette told me that the Vette’s top speed is around 175 mph w/ a coeh/drag of .29, but raise the big flat headlights and it drops to around 160. I don’t know if that is true but the fact remains you can’t just throw a block of steel into the wind at those speeds w/out getting killed! Thankfully for you, it is a video game!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 10 Jul 1999
Time:: 11:49:25
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Obviously that if your going to put over 900bhp in a car, that's not the only thing your going to be doing to it. Body work would also have to be done or else all that massive power is useless. I also think that a car with 900bhp should be able to do 260mph or over with good aerodynamics.

Ioannis

Date:: 10 Jul 1999
Time:: 17:17:10
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The other day, I was coming back from Las Vegas to Salt Lake city in my White lightning 91' VR4. I was just crusin' trying to make good time, and I pass up this white dodge stealth. Now I have found it hard to pick out what trim model those stinkin' things are, they aren't printed on the back as noticable as the 3kgt, but anyway, the driver thought he was pretty tough. He looked maybe 18 yrs. old. He started to give me a bit of a run, so I decided to open up on him. At about 155 mph I could no longer see the little cutie in my rear view. I then pulled into the right lane and set cruise cntrl. to about 90. About 10 min. later sure enough, the stealth passes me up at about 120 mph.(probably top speed). I just let him go. But it doesn't end there. About 10 more minutes later, I see him pulled off the road and he and his buddie are in the weeds hangin out pointing and waving as I go by. Like ya you guys sure showed me. They ran back up to get in the car to try to catch me again. I romped on it, and 10 miles down the road I took an exit and went up onto the overpass and hurried and flipped around and got out and sat on the overpass and waited until they came up the road, I smiled and waved and to my suprise, the driver waved back. Much respect to a good loser. Mark- Bountiful, Ut.

Date:: 10 Jul 1999
Time:: 19:09:36
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James, it seems you're getting a bit excited over the simple mention of a VIDEO GAME. If you were to take that in a real-life situation, there would DEFINITELY have to be modifications made. You can't just add 944hp and expect to run at 260mph. The gears would more than likely have to be changed, as well as some parts for aerodynamics. A good spoiler would probably have to be added, as well as the car being lowered considerably, and adding a good chin spoiler. I am sure the modifications would not end there. I'm no expert on going 260mph, but I do know for a fact that these are some things you will DEFINITELY need. RatedZ@aol.com

Date:: 10 Jul 1999
Time:: 20:22:07
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Well guys my wife recently bought a 1998 black vr4. She is Japanese and loves her car because its from her homeland. As for me Im driving my little Nissan hardbody truck (with a few modifications).As for war stories go she has one for me about every day she comes home from work. Guys are constantly testing her at stop lights;and yes they are the ones who usually fail! vr-4's are rare around here. The fellas dont know what the heck happened when they are sucked up by a STOCK import! I get to drive her car on occasion and time and time again I am impressed by how solid and fast this car is. For the money this car can hold its own against cars that cost thousands more! Well Im outta here!

P.S. watch out for undercover 5.0's.

Date:: 10 Jul 1999
Time:: 20:25:17
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P.S. watch out for undercover 5.0's.

Date:: 12 Jul 1999
Time:: 06:33:33
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Send every undercover 5.slow my way!

Date:: 12 Jul 1999
Time:: 16:37:24
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Of all the cars on the road that I most frequently spank, it's got to be the Mustang! Cobra, GT or 6banger the result is the same! Loud does not mean fast! What do ya say guys (or girls)!

Max's '95 VR-4

Date:: 12 Jul 1999
Time:: 16:47:39
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Of all the cars on the road that I most frequently spank, it's got to be the Mustang! Cobra, GT or 6banger the result is the same! Loud does not mean fast! What do ya say guys (or girls)!

Max's '95 VR-4

Date:: 12 Jul 1999
Time:: 20:23:14
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I just bought a Civic Si. In Canada that is. Which means its only 127Hp. I don't expect to be racing anything fast. I got the Civic for relyability, price, comfort, milage, and fun. It's pretty good fun for your buck. You can zip across country windy roads and have a blast. Forget the racing, I'm not into it. Go ahead, pass me, I won't even try. It doesn't make me any less of a man either, it's only a car. Grow up already. It's a car, not your brain. That constant comparing and measuring and positioning and competing and preventing and watching and teasing, oof it makes me sick. Also note that the people with large exhausts and lowered suspensions never really look at you or smile, they're way too tense over the whole thing. Oh well, I would just like to add a little something to all you babies out there. Grow up already...

Date:: 13 Jul 1999
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To the last post, I bought my car for the same reasons. I just upgraded the exhaust system and bought a EVC boost controller for more power. You sound a little insecure about the car you just purchased. If I'm wrong, I apologize but having a civilized discussion (between some of us) about our cars doesn't make us not grown up. Civics are excellent cars, that's a fact but it's not a sports car and that's what we are primarily talking about here. I don't seek out people to race in my car but I've gotten caught up in a few races because my emotions got the best of me. I enjoy my car and I hope everyone out there enjoys their car, no matter what it is.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 13 Jul 1999
Time:: 11:17:56
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To the fella in the Civic, the reason nobody is smiling at you is because your staring at them in envy and they probably think your weird. I have a suggestion; how about we just get rid of all this competitivness. Let's get rid of NASCAR, NHRA, all drag racing, Cart racing, 24 Hrs. of LeMans, cross-country, 100M Dash, competitive swimming, Tour de France and kid's on their bicycles! Does that make you happy Mr. "oofy" Civic Nerd? Just knowing your car has 127 bhp and that it is fun to drive is where we all began, we just turn it up a notch! Have a nice day!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 13 Jul 1999
Time:: 22:31:36
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If anybody has any experience please help! I bought a '94 VR-4 a month ago with a great 34k miles for $20,500 and the intake/exhaust is already upgraded, not a scratch on the car! I am just now getting good with shifting and working the clutch, etc! The only other manuals I have ever driven was a U-Haul truck and a Fiat 4 speed while I was in the Air Force in Europe so I was really scared, but I made it through the period of stalling at the red light & forgetting to shift! I have started to notice that I get my best launch when I dump my clutch @ about 3000+ rpm's but my clutch is getting mushy and emits a funny smell! What am I doing wrong?!

Carls' VR-4, Santa Barbara, CA

Date:: 14 Jul 1999
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The only time I experienced the foul odor while shifting was when I first got my 93 SL. While driving uphill in a parking lot I had to stop while someone ahead was parking. Well, I hadn't mastered keeping the car still by getting on the clutch and giving the car just enough revs to keep it from rolling backwards. So, when the car rolled backwards a little, I freaked and accelerated hard while the clutch was still engaged. Shortly after I did that this ungodly odor came out of nowhere. That odor is a sure sign that you were on the clutch while accelerating. Be careful because you can burn out your clutch this way.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 14 Jul 1999
Time:: 12:54:01
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I also experience a foul odor this morning when I shifted into gear......I farted.

Date:: 14 Jul 1999
Time:: 13:26:16
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Hey all Question How much does a new clutch costs for the vr4 92 Also my pilot bearing i think thats what it is called is making a noise. May be thats why when my car is parked it is hard to put in the first or reverse I usually have to put it in the fourth before able to **** it in 1st or 4th.

Any good mechanics in Chicago for the vr4 who don't charge alot.

Please help

Date:: 14 Jul 1999
Time:: 22:08:38
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Date:: 14 Jul 1999
Time:: 22:20:05
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Instead of "****ting" into gear, try shifting. I think that may solve your problem. I'll bet you're experiencing a foul odor also, right ?

Date:: 14 Jul 1999
Time:: 23:18:08
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All you losers think you own the road in your yuppy AWD/AWS twin turbo rediculously expensive VR-4's. My stock new 1999 Firebird WS6 with ram air will stomp all over any stock VR-4. What the hell ever happened to GM/Ford/Chrysler patriotism? The car that started the whole quest for power and speed was the Pontiac GTO back in 1963, followed by the Mustang, Hemi Charger and Barracuda, and all the other great muscle cars of the 1960's and early 1970's. Those cars produced raw power and didn't have to rely on fancy prissy **** like turbo chargers or AWD for power and performance. The same holds true for the new American V8 sports cars. At least there's still a few people out there who love these cars. Bret

Date:: 15 Jul 1999
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Bret, all those muscle cars in the 60's and 70's are great cars, if that's what you want. I looked at the Vette, Camaro SS and Supra Turbo in that order. The Vette is an awesome car in my opinion but not practical enough for my needs, store it for the winter season. Ditto for the Camaro SS and also that the SS was not luxurious enough for me. Supra Turbo, excellent car, great control around bends, didn't even need to come off the throttle but again WINTER weather conquers it. I purposely looked at the VR4 last just so I could have a feeling of how it compares to the others. It is slower than all of them, OK I can deal with that but a grand or two will take care of that. Handles like it's on rails and all-wheel drive, it's saviour for winter driving. Plus it looks better than the rest, in my opinion and you don't see the streets full of them. So, call me a prissy yuppie loser, I've been called worse.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 15 Jul 1999
Time:: 09:44:16
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Bret,

Are you calling our cars "fancy prissy ****..." because they are Turbo Charged? Does that mean you are calling the Porsche 911 Turbo and Formula 1 cars, which btw, have 2.6 L Turbo charged engine and run an average speed of 220-240 mph, "prissy cars". Heck, even the new Lingenfelter 'Vette C5 has a Twin Turbo setup now.

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red' Stealth RT/TT

Date:: 15 Jul 1999
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Bret,

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red' Stealth RT/TT

Date:: 15 Jul 1999
Time:: 13:14:47
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Bret,

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red' Stealth RT/TT

Date:: 16 Jul 1999
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Bret, The car's of the early 60's didn't rely on prissy AWS/AWD, Turbo's, etc, etc, because they didn't have the technology to put it all together in a great package like the VR4. For the same reason we don't go to the space station in the Apollo Series Shuttle, but rather one of the Space Shuttles. Get the picture? I think I speak for most everyone when I say that we hold a great deal of respect for the grandfather's of sports cars; GTO, Corvette, early Ferrari's/Lotus's and Porshe's but they don't hold a candle to the all-around performance available today. Furthermore, the only people I have ever heard speak badly about turbo's are the ones that have never driven one or wish they could! So take your ignorant comments and shove it!

Date:: 16 Jul 1999
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You know brett, one thing that I do enjoy about my prissy awd/aws 91 VR4 is that I don't/ can't roast my tires every time I want to get of the line quickly. I save a bundle on rubber, and I win races. As for the expensive part, My 91 has 70k miles on it and it is in perfect shape, and I paid----well let's just say that I looked at a 1.5 karat diamond that cost more. (under 10,000) So you can say what you want, but just like these other guys have been saying, I don't think I'll be seeing you in your rwd pos this winter. Mark-91VR4. UT.

Date:: 17 Jul 1999
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You just go right ahead and drive fast on wet or icy roads, then you'll find out that AWD doesn't make your car invincible after you turn a corner or a bend too hard, lose traction, and run into a tree. As for turbo chargers, I wouldn't put any in my car even if I had the money to spend. I'd rather have my engine run cooler and last longer. There are a lot of other cheaper modifications that I could do to my car to get over 400 hp anyway. Everybody knows that turbos and AWD/AWS weren't around in the 60's and 70's, and that's exactly my point. There were no high-tech components or engineering methods available at that time to be built into those cars, yet they still kicked ass. A stock tri-power(that means 3 2BBL carbs) Pontiac GTO ran 0-60 in the high 5's and the 1/4 mile in the low 13's @ around 105 MPH. A new LS1 V8 F-body is faster than a new VR-4, despite it's lousy live-axle design. But that's nothing. Just wait until an AWD American Sports car is produced. Whether it's an AWD F-body, Vette, Mustang, or Viper, it's going to be scarey! Until then, I'll just keep beating VR-4's with my live-axle stock WS6 Firbird.

Date:: 17 Jul 1999
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To the last guy that posted, get a life. Speed is the only thing your car has over the VR4 in stock trim. That's it. Your car won't be worth a dime while your still paying for it and after you're done paying for it. With the exception of Rated Z, you F-body guys come in here always talking about "my car's faster, my car's faster". The only thing your F-body cars have going for them is the LS1 engine, which is starting a new level for highly refined V8 engines but that's it. The rest of the car is "lacking" big time, that's why it's so cheap. I bet the LS1 engine is going to beat the hell out of your F-body frames and their going to start flexing and creeking like always despite the small improvement in rigidity on the 97-99 models. So, when you trade in your LS1 WS6(WS standing for "We Suck"), I'll still be driving my solid VR4 which is still holding 70% of it's value. See, there are other more important than speed.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 18 Jul 1999
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To Bret or whoever has the WS6 Firebird,

You say, "... I'd never put a turbo charger in my car". Well that's fine, you have a V8 (5.7L) engine you can't expect a V6 to produce the same HP as a V8 without using some High Tech mechanical wizardry. You have to use a Turbo/Supercharger or some kinda' of VTEC system. You also mention you wouldn't put a Turbo because you want your engine to last longer. Well, a friend of mine has a 97 T/A (V8 5.7L LS1 engine). Two weeks ago he's driving down the Highway and the engine caught on fire. They got the car back to the dealership and they found 2 small holes in the oil pan. The dealership didn't tell him what it was, but I seems like something from the engine (Rocker Rods) had gone through the oil pan. They ended up installing a new engine, $12,000 CDN.

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT

Date:: 18 Jul 1999
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Marc, speed is what it's all about. Nobody takes their car to the track to run the slalom; nobody really cares for the most part. Sure, a car's handling ability is important. Still, the 1/4 mile is the most widely talked about event among all sports car owners, that's why people are dumping thousands of dollars into their engines: to make their cars FASTER. About value, just go to kbb.com (the Kelly Blue Book website) and you'll see that a V8 Fbody retains its value, in proportion, just as well as a VR-4. of course, you could just say that you ar cost more than mine. I'm sure that would make you feel better. The LS1 is an aluminum block, making it much lighter than the LT1 engines of yesterday. The reduction in engine weight means that there is less stress being put on the car's chassis. Bret

PS. Jammer, I know a guy whose brand new Mercedes SL500 threw a piston right through the car's hood with only 8K miles on it. That doesn't mean that all Mercedes are pieces of junk. It was just a freak car. Same thing with your friend's '97 Trans Am.

Date:: 18 Jul 1999
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bret, speed may play an important role for you buying your car but for me good looks, comfort, anemities and winter driving were my priorities. Your car is faster than mine, WHO CARES. My car cost more than yours, WHO CARES. Bottom line is, my car gets me from point A to point B in style, class, etc. Your car just gets you there. The speed thing is really wearing thin and if that's the only good thing you can say about your car, then that's a shame.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 18 Jul 1999
Time:: 21:18:50
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Marc, I have heard many people comment on how great the new Fbodies look after they were restyled in 1998. Take a close look at a new Fbody and you'll see that it has its own unique look, unlike anything else on the road. The 3000GT, on the other hand, looks like a limited-production, suped-up Honda or Acura. Sure, it's very aerodynamic and sporty looking, but it doesn't have very much personality to set it apart from other cars in appearance. You and everyone else in here probably thinks it's the other way around. It's all a matter of opinion. I live in southern California, where it never snows and rarely rains in the winter. I wouln't haul ass on wet roads even if my car did have AWD. I have already taken a couple of 12 hour road trips in my car, and the only way I could have been more comfortable is if I was driving a Cadillac. My car is comfortable, stylish(in most peoples' opinion), well-equipped, and fun to drive, and for $26,000.00, it is faster than many sports cars twice its price. Bret.

Date:: 18 Jul 1999
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MY 1994 3000GT SL IS SWEE. I LOVE THESE CARS. ANYWAY JUST A QUICK STORY FOR YA.

Date:: 18 Jul 1999
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MY 1994 3000GT SL IS SWEET. I LOVE THE CAR. JUST A QUICK STORY FOR YA. I RACED MY FRIENDS 1995 TALON TSI ALL WHEEL DRIVE. HE HAS EXHAUST,BOOST CONTROL,AFTER MARKET TURBO, NEW ENGINE...ANYWAY WE RACED FROM A LIGHT AND HE GOT ME OFF THE LINE. I WAS SPINNIN MY TIRES WAY TOO MUCH. AFTER MY TIRES GRABBED THE STREET I CAUGHT RIGHT UP TO HIM(ABOUT 2-3 CARS). WE RACED TO ABOUT 110 MPH AND I HAD ABOUT A CAR ON HIM. WE ALSO ALWAYS RACE FROM A ROLL START. EVERY TIME I BEAT HIM BY 2-3 CAR LENGTHS. NICE N/A CAR. I LOVE IT...

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Well Brett it's like you said, it's all a matter of opinion. First, I don't haul ass in my car during the winter time or while it's raining because I have sense enough to know that's not a good idea. I don't care whether the car has AWD or not, it's not invincible. Second, TO ME the 97-99 TA's are ugly and gaudy, period. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. Lastly, the TA is just like every other rear-wheel drive muscle car out there, it's hardly unique. You don't see many TA's here in Chicago because the car's useless in the winter which is about 3-4 months out of the year. On the other hand, the VR4 has all-wheel drive, all-wheel steering, anti-lock brakes, all STANDARD and I don't have to hide it from the weather. The only other car that can claim those SAFETY features is the Porsche 911 Carrera 4 and Turbo and those car's cost a hell of lot more than the VR4. I'm a car freak, I like all cars and every car has it's purpose. My car serves my purpose just fine and that's all that matters to me.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Look smarty pants Bret, If your balls were as big as your mouth you'd be dead or otherwise! Handling is 50% of performance! Go ahead and supe-up your beastly WS6 and try to beat me to the 1/4 mi. (which would only happen in your dreams), but when somebody pulls out in front of you do you have the braking power?! Answer: No "I don't need Slalom performance" That's crap! Here in Houston where every low down Mexican in his pickup truck will jerk right out in front of you, you have to be prepared to change lanes with a flick of your wrist at any speed! That's called "Slalom" or .97 Lateral G forces at work! Can your WS6 do that without hanging your tail and losing control? I don't think so! You won't put turbos on your car because you can't! You don't have the compression ratio, your engine would blow-up! That's why turbo's work best in high compression 6-cylinder engine's, you still have the low end tourque (especially in the DOHC 24V 3000GT engine @ 2500 rpm's) while at the same time the high revving quick response of a small V6! That's why Porshe refuses to go to a V8! I can turn my turbo boost up to ungodly levels without fear and watch my car scream! Even the Lingenfelter turbo Corvette is only running 4 PSI with lots of head work, etc. By the way, my turbo's work like a second engine with power on tap when ever I want, whereas, you have to rely solely on rpm's to build power! I have enlarged intercoolers w/ a turbo monitor so I don't have to worry about over-heating either. So exactly what was your point? Oh, the F-body does have a unique look..........everywhere you look!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Hey James,

I think you might have mentioned this many posts ago but what's that beast of yours running in 0-60 and 1/4 mile?

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Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Marc, 11.939 @ 113.7 is my best time yet that I have proof! I will say that I hate to call it "a beast" though when I see Viper's just over stock putting out high 10's/low 11's! I have mastered great starts w/ 0-60 in under 4 sec's. What I really need to improve on is calibrating/tweeking the turbo's to hit right at my sweet spot so I can continue to climb fast right past 100+! Then I will see the low 11's, maybe even join the 10 club!!! Thanks for asking!

James '94 HKS/VR4

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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James, my ABS brakes work great, and they have saved me in a few different situations. Just because my car cost 1/2 of what your's did doesn't mean that the brakes don't bring my car to a stop quickly. And yes, I have had a couple of idiots pull in front of me suddenly on the freeway @ 75+ MPH, and I did have to brake hard and make a quick lane change, and no, my car didn't come close to losing control. Without turbos, the Mitsubishi V6 DOHC engine only makes 218 horsepower. The SOHC V6 in the new Chrysler 300M makes 253 horsepower without add-ons. Now that's a REAL V6 engine! If I were able to invest as much money in my car($45,000.00) as a person who buys a new VR-4, my car would be making INSANE amounts of horsepower and torque. My engine is completely stock. It doesn't have 4 valves per cylinder, nor does it have turbo chargers, double-overhead cams, or high compression, but it will still beat a stock VR-4 in the 1/4 mile. With all of the exclamation points you used in your last post, you seemed pretty upset, James. Don't blow your lid just because my $26,000.00 Firebird will outrun your $45,000.00 VR-4. Later James. Bret

PS. Marc, I'm glad my parents decided to leave Chicago and move to southern California right after I was born. I would have been freezing my ass off every winter just like you. Instead this winter I'll be down at the beach again getting a tan while your face is getting freezer-burnt from being outside. :o) Have fun!

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Bret, good luck with the earthquakes while you're out there burning yourself.

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Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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To Bret,

I never implied the T/A, Camaro, or the Mustang are pieces of Junk. But you said that Turbos are unreliable, I was simply pointing out anything even a Bimmer, Porsche etc... can have problems.

To James HKS/VR4,

When you said the VR4 can pull .97 Lateral G, is that your car or stock VR4/TT? Because all the magazines I've read, they post a .88g

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Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Bret, I'm sitting here reading your post and laughing my ass off. Your a funny guy, but I think the California sun has got to your head. If you want to talk about a real V6 how about the 3.5 lt./ 275 hp engine in the Plymouth Prowler. Like Marc I am a Car enthusiest no matter what the make, model or type. About your ABS......my grandmothers' Dodge Caravan has ABS, I was talking about Brembo six piston calipers with cross-drilled & vented rotors all the way around. 60-0 mph in 110 ft.! That's the braking power you need if your going to get out on the road with idiots. And Bret, this for you !!!!!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!! !!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! James HKS/VR4

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Jammer, Motor Trend Magazine, February 1998 the VR4 test @ .95 Dry Lateral G rating beating the NSX-T, Toyota Supra w/ .94 & the Corvette w/ .93. But, losing to the Viper, 911 Turbo & Ferrari F355 w/ 1.01 & 1.0 respectively! Car & Driver and Road & Track Magazines consistently score all cars slower so they must have slower driver's, I don't know. I have Eibach Springs and lowered 1" suspension all the way around w/ 8.5"x18" Pirelli P9000's so I was guessing modestly when I said .97 but could probably do much better if I were able to accurately test such a thing. James' HKS/VR4

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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Hi everyone! This is my first post, so please be gentle. First of all, let me say that I love the 3000GT for its looks and performance - And before I get any of that slanted-eyed-riceboy crap, I drive a Chevy, my mom drives a GMC, and my dad drives a Dodge. So I don't own a 3000gt yet. (I hope in the next 2-3 years!!)

But I do have a war story (kind of) to share with everyone. It involves Gran Turismo, which as I can see has already been discussed in some detail. Anyway, one of my friends was bragging about how he could kick anyone's ass with his Racing modified viper. So I decided to challenge him one night at a small get together at his house. I selected my fully modded GTO (with the simple, innocent looking stock paint job) as he chose the decked-out Viper. Everyone around the TV was yelling at me, "You're driving that piece of crap? You're gonna get your ass kicked!!" Well, needless to say, when my 930hp and 5716.5 ft.lbs of torque kicked in on high-traction tires, I smoked his ass. Everyone was stunned. I hit 100 as he hit 60, and in 5 seconds he was out of my rear view mirror. It was incredible. By the way, to all of you livid Viper enthusiasts, it was only a GAME. Take it easy. But I must say, it is quite a realistic one - graphics differentiate between model years for the GTO, and other cars as well.

And before anyone gets on my ass and tells me how I'll never be able to afford a VR-4, I plan on trading in my K1500 Extended Cab Z71 Diesel Chevy for one in 2 years or so. Until then, all I can do is drool. It's amazing how a $30 dollar game can inspire me to spend 20-25K.

It's truly unfortuate that some people who post here can bring dishonor to those to drive fbody cars. Some of my best, nicest friends drive Pontiacs and Mustangs. Well, that just goes to prove that you can't judge a book by its cover. I'm sure there are some 3000gt owners who think that they are pretty hot stuff, too.

Later all, Jato

BTW, if anyone would like to give me their VR-4, it'll go toward a good cause!! :)

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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It's truly unfortuate that some people who post here can bring dishonor to those to drive American cars. Some of my best, nicest friends drive Pontiacs and Mustangs. Well, that just goes to prove that you can't judge a book by its cover. I'm sure there are a few 3000gt owners who think that they are pretty hot stuff, too.

Later all, Jato

BTW, if anyone would like to give me their VR-4, it'll go toward a good cause!! :)

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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NOT TO MAKE THE SUBJECT WORSE BUT I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT 3000GT'S VS. MUSTANGS/FIREBIRDS.ETC.. EVERYONE THAT OWNS A 3000GT OR A RICEBURNER KNOWS THAT WE HEAR ALL KINDS OF CRAP. THE DOMESTIC LOVERS ALWAYS TALK CRAP ABOUT MY 3000GT. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TO YOU ALL WHO TALK CRAP ABOUT 300GT'S. I COULD HAVE WENT OUT AND BOUGHT 2 OF YOUR P.O.S. MUSTANGS/FIREBIRDS OR WHATEVER FOR THE PRICE OF A NEW 3000GT. SO YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK CRAP. YOU KNOW YOU REALLY WANT A 3000GT, YOU JUST COULD NOT AFFORED IT. SO YOU WENT OUT AND BOUGHT YOUR AMERICAN CAR, AND OUT OF SELF PITTY YOU HAVE TO TALK CRAP ABOUT THE 3000GT. FACE IT MY CAR WILL ALWAYS GET MORE LOOKS THEN YOURS, AND MAINLY THAT IS WHAT IS ALL ABOUT.HEAR IN DENVER CO, I SEE A AMERICAN SPORTS CAR ABOUT EVERY 10 FEET. ISEE A 3000GT ABOUT EVERY 100MILES. SERIOUSLY, HOW OFTEN DO YOU RACE ON THE ROAD. NOT OFTEN. PEOPLE SEE THE LOOKS OF YOUR CAR NOT THE SPEED. EVENTHOUGH I'M SAYING THIS MY CAR IS STILL FASTER THAN ALL UR WUSSY AMERICAN CARS, AND IT GETS THE LOOKS. THANX, MIKE-DENVER Q43000GT@AOL.COM

Date:: 19 Jul 1999
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here's what you get when you twin turbo a 1994 Ford Mustang Cobra with the 5.0L V8: 450 rear wheel horespower and 501 ft/lbs of rear wheel torque! if you don't believe me then go to this URL:

http://www.neticus.com/users/mchild/featured/moore.php

read it and weep, bitches!

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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I'll be honest. I ordered a ws6 T/A and was prepared to pay about $35,000 for it. The dealers around here have them marked up to unrealistic figures, but if you want one, you have to pay premium for it. I waited six months and in the meantime, a friend showed me this barely used VR4 for slightly less money. It had everything the T/A had, but the interior was better, the A/C was colder and it had a cool climate control. It had AWD which is necessary for the winters here in the northeast and it was fast (not as fast as the T/A) but had the potential to be much faster very easily. Also it was noticeably much better handling car and far more solid and stable. I bought it and never regretted it. Having owned and enjoyed (when it wasn't being fixed) a 94 T/A before, I still long for those tail kicking burn outs and almost crazy low end torque. The vr4 has a neck snapping launch when done correctly and with the boost controller on 1 bar, the LS1 guys will see my tail lights.

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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Yah great, some mustang! You know what? They hook up like **** stock on the street. With 450 H.P. the thing would be a nig.phpare to launch at a stop light. I wouldn't be too scared about street racing one even though I probably only have about 350 4-wheel Horses. My friends 1998 supercharged Saleen was beautiful, but it spun tires like it was on ice and would want to kick around on a hard downshift. I am impressed but our cars can put out 600 h.p. with two less litres for less than the cost of his upgrade (since the car is already set up for boost)

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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Why don't you 3KGT haters save up your paper route money and buy one. You guys look so pitfull coming in this site screaming like little pussies about how your caveman V8 cars with broomsticks for a rear axle can outrun our cars. Except for a couple of the cars, GM makes ****ty cars that only you poor bastards can afford.

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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To whoever posted that site for the Buttstang you have only helped prove my point. Notice all the head, piston work, etc, hell the guy had to get a new transmission! Just wait till his axle goes out, and he's only putting out 9 (regulated) psi. You can put two GT25 Turbo's, doubling the psi in the 3000GT engine with no fears and nothing more to modify if your smart enough to let your engine run to cool the turbos after a hot run. That's it. Take that Mustang and drive it reeeeeeeal fast.....off a cliff! It should have been yellow not red as it's a lemon waiting to happen.

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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Why don't you 3000GT haters save up your paper route money and buy a real car. You GM guys are a bunch of sad little pussies that can't afford a 3000, so you come in here and rag on our cars. I tell ya what, after you guys are done with your route, why don't you come by a cut my grass and if your mom let's you stay out late you can wash my car. Maybe after a few years, you'll be able to buy you a 3000.

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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Jerry's "V8 eater" VR-4

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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Jato, Save your money, at least for right now, as I don't expect the current style 3000GT to be around much longer. My sources tell me to look for a 2002 3.4 lt./TT/est. 400HP Ferrari killer for half the price. The sad news is that gone may be the way of AWD if the 3000GT follows the path of the Eclipse. Mitsubishi is very secretive about anything to do with a future 3000GT as they won the current battle w/ Toyota & Nissan. But they know all too well that all eyes are watching for next generation 3000GT vs. Supra. Nissan already f_cked up the 300ZX. Rumors are that a Super-Charged version of the GS400 engine may find it's way into a new Supra! That would incredible.

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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ANYONE WHO BUYS A MITSUBISHI TAKES IT UP THE ASS!

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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GO BACK TO JAPAN RICEBOYS!

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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GO BACK TO JAPAN RICEBOYS!

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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ANYONE HAVE A CRAVING FOR A RICEBOWL?

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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ANYONE HAVE A CRAVING FOR A RICEBOWL?

Date:: 20 Jul 1999
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The Mitsubishi 3000GT vr4 is a great car, but Mitsubishi has put so much attention into the vr4 that the company doesn't have anything very impressive to offer in the sedan, pickup truck, SUV, or minivan markets. The Montero is outsold by a wide margine by other SUV's such as the Ford Explorer/Expedition, Toyota 4Runner/Landcruiser, and Chevy Blazer/Suburban/Tahoe. Sales of the Mitsubishi sedans are also only a fraction of the sales of the Toyota Camry, Ford Taurus, Dodge Intrepid, and many other sedans. And what about pickups? I have never even seen a Mitsubishi minivan here in the US. But I have seen a lot of Dodge Caravans and Ford Windstars. Even Toyota has released the new V8 Tundra, which is competing with the full size V8 pickups from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge. When is Mitsubishi going to get with it? Even their flagship car, the vr4, isn't selling very well becuase of two reasons-- most people don't have over 40K dollars to spend on a car, and even the people who do have that kind of money tend to get something more practical. I'm sure the vr4 is a thrill to drive, but what about when you try to cram another adult or two into it's tiny, uncomfortable back seat, or when you wish you had greater luggage capacity? The vr4 is an expensive, impractical novelty, unless you can also afford a sedan or SUV as well. It's too bad that the only good automobile that Mitsubishi has in it's name is the vr4, while other automobile companies are known for making several different popular and practical models of all types.

^Bill, Oregon

Date:: 21 Jul 1999
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Bill,

If you don't like Mitsubishi then don't buy tri-diamond stock and certainly don't buy a Mitsu car! But I think you forgot that the Eclipse is the top selling sport import of all time and the 3000GT is the top selling import sport tourer of all time. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is the largest corporation in the world, (second to the U.S. Government, ha, ha) and building cars is just a small part of the overall scope of things. Mitsubishi's sell very well worldwide, the problem in the U.S. is people like the guy whose "CAPS LOCK" button is stuck!

Date:: 21 Jul 1999
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http://www.traderonline.com/cgi-bin/auto/apps/search/photdisp.php?photo=00037500402&phoneId=9544242898&ad=5938165&status=no&imgsite=&page=search&pstat=P

I really want the VR4 Spyder and I finally found one. Can anybody tell me why it is that the hard top runs 0-60mph in 4.8 sec, but the Spyder does it in 5.4 even though I thought they were mechanically the same except for the obvious? Thanks already,

Carls' 99 Accord Coupe V6, Austin TX

Date:: 21 Jul 1999
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To Carl,

The reason the spyder is slower, because it's a heavier car. When you remove the top of a car it reduces it's structural integrity. The chassis flexes a lot more and the car becomes unstable. Therefore you have to reinforce the chassis/frame of the car to make it more stable, which in turn increases the weight of the car.

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT

Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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I read that the VR-4 does 0-60 in 5.7 secs and the Spyder does it in 5.4 secs but weighs more than the VR-4 but also has a lower top speed than the VR-4 (VR-4=159mph vs Spyder=155mph). I think the Spyder has lower gear ratios than the VR-4.

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Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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You guys are driving me nuts (my wife say's I am already), I have right in front of me a copy of Motor Trend Magazine w/ the VR-4's 0-60 time of 4.8 sec. and the Spyder @ 5.4. Look in the back where they have a summary of all past road test.

Jammer, I think your right! The Corvette has a 0-60 mph time of 4.8 sec's, but the convertible does it in 5.2 and also has a lower top speed because of the aerodynamic differences of .29 CoeH drag to .32.

Kudo's to the guy from Austin and if you buy that Spyder I envy you. It is a true collector's item and will probably hold it's value better than a Porshe or NSX.

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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Nothing has been done to the engine or the gear ratios of the Spyder. The Spyder VR4 is nothing more than a VR4 that has had it's top chopped off, reinforced and given a customized retractable hard top operated by 12 servos and numerous solenoids. MotorWeek had a show on the Spyder VR4 and how it was built at the ASC factory about 3 years ago. Nothing under the hood of these cars have been touched nor have the gears, suspension, etc. Jammer is also correct about the weight of the Spyder. The Spyder adds 326 pounds to the VR4's weight of 3737 pounds.

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Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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I read that in Road & Track in the part of the magazine where it's a list of cars and it tells you what they're performance is and that's where I got my info from and if you look at an R&T magazine even now it should still be in the back.

The Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Spyder is as good as it gets. EVERYTHING. My dad is hoping to purchase one and out to Greece for summer driving cross-country with the top down.

Ioannis

Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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All Spyder SL's and VR4's start life as 3000GT SL's and VR4's. These cars are sent to ASC where they go through their transformation into Spyders. The suspension, engine, gear ratios, etc. are untouched during this process. The only thing that's added is an additional 326 pounds when they put the convertible top on.

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Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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Hi Guys,

First time writer long time reader. Most of you on this website appreciate cars in general and have finally found the ultimate driving experience in the 3kgt. I couldn't agree more!! Personally I drive a caracas red '96 3000GT Spyder which I bought about 3 months ago. Currently it's got the HKS super mega flow air filter, HKS boost controller, HKS intercooler/downpipe, and turbo timer. It's a dream to drive and has about 450hp. Anyway, the reason I'm writing is in response to Carl in Austin. Carl, here's a little history on that Spyder you're thnking about buying. In August of '94 Mitsubishi started a heavy advertising campaign to tout their new 3000GT Spyder which was due debut in January of '95. Unfortunately, they had problems with the retractable hardtop and had to delay introduction until November when they thought they had the problem fixed. They made only 1000 of the Spyders, both VR4 and SL styles, and of these they sold 856 in '95. Due to the low volume Mitsubishi cancelled the line and sold the remaining 144 in '96. Also, there was a service notice sent out on the '95 model regarding the top not working properly on many of the vehicles. Some modifications were made to fix the problem and were corrected on all the '96's prior to sale. Just some info for you and an FYI to have the top looked at on that '95 you've been looking at. P.S. Hey James, sounds like you've already done to your car what I plan on doing to mine. That VR4 of yours must plant you back in the seat pretty damn good 'cause I know mine does. What a rush eh? Troy '96 Caracas red "Spyderman"

Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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Spyderman, James,

Thanks for the info. I almost spent $110k on a Comptech NSX I found in Ohio, but even as an executive at Dell Computer that's more money than I want to spend. I tried to get some advise at some of the Fbody/Mustang sites but got only redneck insults. The hilly roads around Austin, TX get down right icy and slippery in the winter so I need AWD but did not want to get a Porsche Carrera 4 as most of my collegues have Porsche's and I want something unique. I am sure you understand. I have only seen one Spyder in my life and rarely ever spot a VR4. I just bought a '99 Accord Coupe V6 VTEC to drive while I am looking. The Honda is a great car with smooth clean power but no kick in the ass! I'll be back in touch soon with a new car and a lot more in common!

Carl

Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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Thanks also to loannis, Marc & Jammer

Carl (soon to be VR4 Spyder)

Date:: 22 Jul 1999
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0-60 in 5.4 seconds 1/4 mile in 14.1 @ 96.5 MPH

the new Mustang Cobra??? NOPE- the new Ford F-150 Lightning! it sucks for you guys that a big truck with a curb weight of 4,670 pounds can keep up with the 3,700 pound VR4 in the 1/4 mile. not to mention that this truck can also tow a 5,000 lb. boat. GODDAM, American engineering is GREAT!

Date:: 23 Jul 1999
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The F150 Lightning's got a 360 horsepower supercharged V8 engine. What do you expect! The truck would still be toasted racing a VR4. Read the past few post, VR4's are doing 4.8 second zero to sixty and quarter-miles of 13.8 @100.8 - 101.6 which ironically is about the same as the Ford Mustang Cobra (5.5, 13.7 @101.4) which is Ford's bread and butter sports car.

Date:: 23 Jul 1999
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Spyderman,

Sounds like you have got a great ride. I also chose HKS to perform my mods and everything has performed flawlessly. If your in the California area I can make some great recommendations. Get this, mail order all the modification components set up w/ no shipping charges then have it put on in your area if you have a qualified friend/or mechanic and save a bundle in taxes. You don't pay taxes on parts & you don't pay taxes on labour.

To the hillbilly talkin' crap about the truck, I remember reading about that truck in one of the magazines I subscribe to. Why is everybody so hellbent to supe up a truck os SUV? With a 75%/25% wt. split front to rear, as aerodynamic as a cargo van and now that they jacked w/ the suspension I doubt you can realistically tow 5K lbs. That piece of garbage has a huge supercharger on it with an engine twice the size of mine. Dude, I get to 60 mph 1.5 sec's faster and 1/4 mi. 3 sec's faster and I still have room to improve!

I was watching truck racing the other day on ESPN2. Those trucks were all over the track out of control, non-stop tail spins, I've never seen so many wrecks.

James' HKS/VR4

Date:: 23 Jul 1999
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LOANNIS, Car & Driver and Road & Track Magazines consistantly score every car regardless of make or model slower in every way than Motor Trend. I don't know how C&D and R&T do their test but I do know that MT runs a car up one way and back down another, add the times together and divide by two so that wind or slope etc., is not a factor. I still think it's disgraceful that R&T would post 0-60 in 5.7 while MT post 5.4 and 4.8!

Go here => http://www.motortrend.com/bl/rtrsearch_f.php and look at the data for the '95 vs '97 VR4's!

Also Jammer look at the Lateral G force rating of 0.95!

James' HKS/VR4

Date:: 23 Jul 1999
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http://www.autoworld.com/news/Ford/2000SVTF150.php

Lay off the crack pipe trucker! 0-60 in 5.4, 1/4 mi. 14.6 @ 97 mph. That's pathetic for 360hp/440 ft. lbs. tourque and not a whole lot better than a 3000GT SL. This is all too typical of Fords, real powerful on paper but not very fast in real life.

Date:: 23 Jul 1999
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I read the numbers that MT gave, but something confuses me. Why is the 95 @ 5.4 and the 97 at 4.8? Was anything changed during those two model years? Could the spoiler account for this difference?

And another thing; how could the 95 be faster in the 1/4, and yet slower in the 0-60?

BTW, Bill: Keep in mind that Mitsubishi is so much bigger than cars! In fact, most of these "Riceboy" screaming ford owners probably watch football games on Mitsu big screen TVs! Oh wait... they probably use an all-american brand...like Sony!!

Jato

Date:: 23 Jul 1999
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i'd have to say that Motor Trend is a much more reliable source for performance numbers than "autoworld." Motor Trend ran the 1/4 mile in 14.1 @ 96.5 in the F-150 Lightning. if you don't believe me, see for yourself- http://motortrend.com/june99/ford/ford_svt_f.php

for a 4,670 pound vehicle, 14.1 @ 96.5 is a real accomplishment with 360 horsepower. my friend's 1998 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 has a Paxton supercharger and blasts out 470 horsepower/565 ft-lbs of torque, and he has run the 1/4 mile in 13.2 @ 105. i'm talking about a truck that weighs 5,800 pounds. except for the exaust this truck looks like a stock work truck. 300ZX TT & VR4 owners are dumbfounded when they get beaten by this Bohemith of a truck. we can't get enough of it!

-"trucker"

Date:: 23 Jul 1999
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Jato,

When MT tested the 97 VR4, they revved the engine up to 6000 rpm then dumped the clutch. During the test in 95, MT performed the test from a standing start without revving the engine. Revving the engine before dumping the clutch will produce a quicker 0-60 time but the quarter-mile run will suffer as a result. When MT ran a test on the 91 VR4, it was on a near 100 degree day. The car only ran a 0-60 in 6.3 and the quarter mile was 14.5 @ 96.3mph. The Toyota MR2 Turbo nearly beat it that day! You do get a much quicker start when you rev the engine around 4000 rpm before dumping the clutch but doing that to often will screw up the transmission as well as the all-wheel drive system.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 24 Jul 1999
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Trucker,

There is a fundamental reason we all don't drive fast trucks instead of fast cars....they suck! A truck will never be a sports car no matter how fast! Now why didn't Fords' SVT Group put a 360 hp power plant in the Buttstang Slowbra and for the first time in a very long time they might have been able to give the Camaro an honest challenge?

Date:: 24 Jul 1999
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Der 3000GT VR-4 ist SCHEIST!

Date:: 24 Jul 1999
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Hey SEXIES! Does anyone want to do me up the butt on the hood of a VR-4? That has been my hottest fantasy for a few years. So who's up for it?

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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I will give you the hood of my car up your ass at 80 mph you German fag

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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I've got a Twin Turbo Lexus SC400 510hp/490ft.tq. 0-60 4.2 sec 1/4 mi. 11.4 @ 121.1. I can take any VR-4 any day!

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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any day your mom's butt. you dont have ****, just ride your bike. dump ass!!!!!!!

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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any day your mom's butt. you dont have ****, just ride your bike. dumb ass!!!!!!!

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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Man o man! I disappear for a few weeks, and now we've got people screwing on top roofs of 3000GTs, Buttstang Slowbras, pieces of crap VR4s, and Twin Turbo Lexuses.......I guess I really didn't miss much did I?

RatedZ@aol.com

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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Welcome back RatedZ!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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Please! Somobody poke my ass on the hood of a 3000GT VR-4. NOW! I'm SOOOOO horny!

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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Please! Somebody poke my ass on the hood of a 3000GT VR-4. Now! I'm SOOOOO horny!

*TwInKiEbUtT*

Date:: 25 Jul 1999
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Please! Somebody poke my ass on the hood of a 3000GT VR-4. Now! I'm SOOOOO horny!

*TwInKiEbUtT*

Date:: 26 Jul 1999
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Something weird happened yesterday. I got up on the highway and this 3000GT SL got up along side of me and wouldn't leave me alone. I would speed up and he would speed up, I would slow down and he would slow down. I don't know what the guy was trying to prove, maybe that he could hang with big brother VR4. But to sum it up, I had to slingshot to around 140 mph just to shake him. Needless to say, I was impressed with the way that SL hung on. Oh yeah, some kid in a Z28 saw me jet off and tried to join the chase but was simply no factor!

James' HKS/VR4

Date:: 26 Jul 1999
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The SL's are not that bad once they get rolling. Back when I had my 93 SL, I gave LT1 Z28's some problems while racing them. They would eventually beat me but I made them sweat. Now that I have my VR4, I realize that this car is totally different from the SL model. Never had a chance to challenge a VR4 but I'm pretty sure the outcome would have been the same as with the Z28.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 26 Jul 1999
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Hey everybody. Just thought I'd drop in and let all you hotheads know that my supercharged 1997 Impala SS LT1 with 4:56 gears leaves vr4's in it's dust. So anybody up for a race? -Geoff Canella

Date:: 26 Jul 1999
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Thanks for clarifying that your Impala is an LT1 since I had no idea that's what SS meant. You started with 260 hp in a car that weighs over 2 tons. If you have very short gear ratios then you have to shift very often and you have no top speed worth talking about. Forget about your sweet spot, you don't have one. Wait a minute...........Impala's come w/ a 4 spd. Automatic, you're an idiot! Impala is also the favorite food of big cats, sort of fitting don't you think? Hmmmm, I wonder why GM discontinued the SS Impala? Because it sucks! For the money you could have bought a 5 year old VR4, then you might be able to beat another VR4 but you'd have to learn how to shift a 6 spd.

Date:: 26 Jul 1999
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A Impala SS is nothing more than a tank with dual exhaust. My mom's Honda Accord could run with it. I wouldn't even waste my gas on racing one. The SS stands for "Super Slow". Drop about 900 pounds, then come back.

Date:: 26 Jul 1999
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My favorite thing to do is come home from work, do two huge lines of cocaine, get into my VR4, put in some great music and go for a 1 hour power drive. If you don't know what I'm talking about then don't knock it 'till you try it!

Date:: 27 Jul 1999
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Trucks Suck ??? SS Slandering ??? German butt poking?? Drug abuse ? And the MOST ludricous of all...a 93 SL giving an LS1 a problem ?? Never !!

What is all this ??? I go on vacation and a whole new sub culture developes ?

Larry VR4

Date:: 27 Jul 1999
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C'mon Larry, read my post. I said an LT1 Z28, not a LS1 Z28. Let's read people.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 27 Jul 1999
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Quite a sexie name you have *Larry*. My butthole ist begging for a large male penis! DO ME NOW!!! Guten nacht cutie boys! Aufsteigen.

*TwInKiEbUtT*

Date:: 27 Jul 1999
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Hey, take it easy Marc. It took Dan almost 2 months to get me to spell Camaro correctly. BTW, at the risk of sounding stupid, what's the difference between an LS1 and an LT1 ? (besides the "S" and the "T" of course) Either way, I can't imagine an SL giving any car a problem. My wife's I30 used to blow the doors off my 93 base.

LVR4

Date:: 27 Jul 1999
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Hey Larry, just giving you grief on my last post. I didn't mean it to be as harsh as it appeared. In horsepower, the difference between the LT1 engine and the LS1 engine in the Camaro Z28 is about 20 horsepower, the LS1 having 20 more horsepower and is lighter and more refined than the LT1. The 93 SL was a dog off the line, most cars could beat it then but like I said in my post once it got up to speed, it ran rather well. I had a 5-speed manual and 3rd and 4th gear were fairly strong. When I raced a Z28, I was on the expressway doing about 60mph in fourth gear. The Z28 got right behind me and flickered his lights. I downshifted to third then I punched it. The Z28 was right behind me then he got into the lane beside me. I don't know if he needed a tune-up or what but it took him over a 1/4-mile to pass me. True, the car was slow for 222hp but the only car that beat me that had less horsepower than me was a Honda Prelude VTEC.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 27 Jul 1999
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Alright now what's the f**kin deal with this gay German guy???!!! Twinkiebutt or whatever your name is, you need to get the hell out of here and stay out! This message board is about automotive war stories, not your sick homosexual desires. Nobody in here wants to hear about your gay fantasies. Of all places why did you have to come in here? Go find a gay chatroom somewhere. GET LOST!

Date:: 28 Jul 1999
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Sounds to me like twinkiebutt has never had a "little debbie", pun intended! Now get the f_ck out, jerk!

Marc, With your old SL running well and at highway speeds with a 5 manuel vs. an automatic LT1 I believe you could cause any car some trouble. Hell I was just reading this morning last months MT where the Mercedes E55 betters the Viper from 70-120 mph although posessing considerably less HP. The 200 hp 98-99 Honda Accord V6 can outrun the 230 hp Acura Legend because of the smoother more refined VTEC engine. More horse power doesn't mean better horse power, it's all about how you use it or who is sitting behind the wheel. I drove my friends Supra Turbo the other day with him in the passenger seat and after our 30 min. drive he looked at me and said he never realized his car was that fast!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 28 Jul 1999
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Thanks for the info Marc. Yeah, my 93 was a real dog off the line, but fair over 60. It was an auto. LVR4 BTW, Best we ignore the German.

Date:: 28 Jul 1999
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EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, Stop driving cars your destroying our environment and poluting our air. Thank you, peace and love!

Date:: 28 Jul 1999
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Actually, Mr./Miss environmental person, a JET SKI used for 7 hours emits as much pollution as a passenger car driven 100,000 miles. Interesting fact I learned today; just thought I'd share.

Keep on truckin', Jato

Date:: 29 Jul 1999
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EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, Stop driving JET SKI'S your destroying our environment and polluting our air. Thank you, peace and love!

Ms. Flower Power

Date:: 30 Jul 1999
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Had an interesting conversation with a co-worker yesterday about my car and his car. He drives a 98 BMW 540i Sport. Well, he states that his car will outrun mine in the quarter mile based on the numbers the cars produced during testing. We both used the numbers that were generated from Road and Track. For my car, the numbers posted were: 0-60 (4.8) and the quarter mile is 13.6@100.5 mph. For the 540i, 0-60 (5.5) and the quarter is 14.0@101.7 mph. His point was that even though my car got to the quarter-mile quicker than his car did, his car was traveling faster than mine. I've never understood this about these test. Can anybody shed some light on the subject?

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Date:: 30 Jul 1999
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Marc, Few cars can beat the VR4 in the 0-60 which is why of course our cars are faster there. That BMW of your co-worker's is a real gem. I test drove one last year. Although his car is slower to 60, once it gains momentum it will be faster probably from 80-100 through top speed. Your jump at the line got you to 1/4 mi faster but his increasing speed gains would probably get him to 1/2 mi. faster and so on.....! Don't sweat his bragging, people talk about the quarter mile but 0-60 is where it's at when you live in big cities like you and I do. Btw, the 1/4 mi. test is decided by time not speed so technically the VR4 is faster. In a 0-120 mph test the BMW might win.

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 31 Jul 1999
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Too bad you have to rev your engines over 2500 RPM and dump the clutch to beat most sports cars 0-60. Dumping the clutch like that will ruin your transmission and the rest of your drivetrain. Without dumping the clutch a VR-4 can't even beat a 99 Mustang GT 0-60, and Mustangs are ****piles!

Date:: 31 Jul 1999
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Without revving the engine, a VR4 is still doing 0-60 in the 5.1 to 5.4 range.

Date:: 01 Aug 1999
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dude i just put a chevy 502ci big block in my 1976 Gremlin and now i can pop wheelies and stuff. the other day i floored it to hard that my tires started melting off of my polished chrome rims, man that really sucked! but im gunna solve that problem soon cause im gunna put big fat corvette tires on my car. right now i run the 1/4 in 12 flat at 110, but i'm gunna put a supercharger, nitrous, and a blower on it and then i'll be able to beat the Ferarri F40! i dunno about that 1989 Jimmy ive seen around town though, i think he could still kick my ass cause he's got that bitchin 4.3l v6 and i've seen him beat McClaren F1's real bad with it. i think one day im gunna put a JATO system on my car and set a Guiness land speed record. then i could even mount the JATO under my car and have the first Gremlin to go into outer space! man theres so many possibilities!

Date:: 02 Aug 1999
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I have a '94 VR-4 and extreme road rage! I dump the clutch at high rpm's whenever I can. I can be driving down the highway in 6th, press the clutch, put it in 3rd and rev to max rpm's and dump the clutch and squeel the tires at 80 mph!!!!!!! I burn every sports car I see and love it. I have 85,000 miles and the only thing I have ever had to replace is the clutch/flywheel and brakes. BIG DEAL. If you did that in your Mustang then YES you would have to replace your tranny and drive train moron, get a real car! OR, quite talkin' trash about the ones that do.

Date:: 02 Aug 1999
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I saw that 89 Jimmie race against the Starship Enterprise. The Enterprise was at warp 6 and the Jimmie blew right by it !! You should have seen Captain Kirks face !!

OK, enough already. Is it me or has this site become a haven for nuts lately ? Aside from Rated Z, Marc, Jammer, Carl, James, Jato, Loannis and a VERY few others, what's going on here ?

Larry VR4

Date:: 02 Aug 1999
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Larry, If you read back in the posts almost to the beginning of this ever worsening site you will find this same '89 Jimmy fool posting right and left. You find him boasting this Jimmy from the seat of a Viper and so on, though never claiming to be the one in the Jimmy.

Dude, BUSTED, now take your '89 Jimmy and your other alias's and drive right outta here! Go make suckers of some other site and leave the adults alone.

James HKS/VR4

Btw, Back in college I used to own a '91 Chevy Blazer w/ the 4.3l V6 and it sucked bad. I sold it and bought a '92 Eclipse GSX!

Date:: 02 Aug 1999
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Hi all,

You know what kills me, people who think it's all about speed and HP. Well let me tell you something, it's not. It's about style then speed and HP come next. I'm sure I could find you a modified Chevette, Mustang, Camaro, Civic etc... that could probably outrun/take a Ferrari F355. But, do you think the Ferrari owner and anybody on the street (with the exception of a few rednecks, who don't know what a Ferrari is) really care. NO. The only reason I bring this up, because over the weekend I saw this guy with a modified Sidekick, he happened to have his hood up showing his engine to somebody. I took a look at it and it seemed heavily modified with Eddelbrock (sp??) plastered all over the place and the thing sounded like a Mustang 5.0 There's also a chevette around here with a V8 in it. Now I'm sure both these vehicles can probably beat my car from 0-60 or 1/4 mile, but do you think I care or people who see these guys cruisin' around care. NO, because they're ugly cars. I don't care if they can do 0-60 it 3.2 secs. they're still ugly. I'm not saying HP isn't important, but it's not the deciding factor for a car. Sorry to ramble, but I just had to say something.

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT

Date:: 02 Aug 1999
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LOOK GUYS,

Once and for all,,,, revving the engine and dumping the clutch is what gives a manuel the first advantage over an automatic and doubly so in a car w/ AWD. A true road test is not about whether or not you're putting wear & tear on the components or you wouldn't drive it at all in the first place. But rather, what are the true capabilities of the car being tested?

Sam Mitani, R&T

Date:: 03 Aug 1999
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WHAT???????????? Heavily modified Susuki Sidekicks and V8 Chevette's! Where the hell do you live Jammer?!

Date:: 03 Aug 1999
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Sam;

Good point. I mean, if people are really that concerned with wear and tear on their car, then they're taking some of the fun and thrill out of owning such a kick ass car. Although replacing an engine would suck. I work for a mechanic here in Hickville, KS, I'm only 17, and I find nothing difficult about dropping a tranny and replacing a scorched clutch disc and pressure plate assembly. Most of the time, these components really aren't that expensive. (I don't know if this is the case of the 3000GT.) Hell, if I had a vr4 (and I soon will) then I'd be having a blast toasting these muscle car rednecks in my area- within reason, of course. Then again, I might also be replacing the rear suspension quite often, if you know what I mean.... ;) Course I guess, that's just me.

A clutch dump a day keeps the camaros away. Jato

Date:: 04 Aug 1999
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Your gonna pay $1100-1200 at the dealership for a new clutch/pressure plate/flywheel. FORGET THAT! Go to a clutch specialist like we have here in Houston called the "Clutch Shop" on Richmond Ave. They're well apt to do work on high performance cars and will give you a 400 ft.lb. everything for around $600 same day! Or for $200 more get a 500-600 ft.lb. clutch like the Viper's but forget about getting stuck in traffic or your left foot is hurtin'!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 05 Aug 1999
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An interesting thing happened on the way home from work yesterday! I noticed for the first time the new Eclipse pulling out onto my road. Then he shot up behind me and flashed his lights. I thought "eat this!" I stepped on it since I had some room to move only to have to come to a slow down 1/2 mi. up the road. I could see this same black Eclipse coming up behind me way too fast when he shot to the right and took the emergency lane in a cloud of smoke going around four cars before merging back into traffic. The car had temporary tags and I remember looking to see what model it was and only read GT, then I remembered they come with a V6 now not a turbo. Anyways I catch up with this guy and what appeared to be his girlfriend and looked over and said "what the hell are you doing driving a new car like that?" He said, "Hey man, we're on a test drive!" I laughed and drove away pondering that this boy/girl duo had checked out a new Eclipse GT and were out tearing up the town!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 06 Aug 1999
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Man it takes forever to load this web page and when I finally get in here, apart from a few intellectuals, I find this site full of freaks!

Date:: 06 Aug 1999
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I've noticed a lot of Porsche Boxters popping up here in the Chicago area lately. I'm coming back from the airport a few days ago and this guy in a Boxster pulls up beside me and gives me this, "I'm the shi*" kinda look then takes off. The look he gave me was enough to get my blood boiling, so I go after him (here I go again). I catch him, look over at him and give him a "I don't think so" look then I bury the accelerator. I kept the pedal to the floor until I saw him as a spot in my rear mirror. EVERY Boxster I've seen has some arrogant bastard behind the wheel. I feel damn good in my car but I'm not drivin around sticking my nose in the air at someone else's car. Jeez, I didn't realize it was that serious!

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 06 Aug 1999
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Boxster/Z3 owners won't feel so hot next month when detuned to 240hp (250hp in Japan) Honda S2000's come rolling over the Pacific Ocean to blow their doors off for $15k less. -James

Date:: 09 Aug 1999
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Marc,

I had a similar experience with a Boxter on he way to work one mornig. He had the top down, his moosed up hair was flapping around his wrap around sunglasses, gold chains shining from around his neck, etc,etc. At the first light, he gave me this "down his nose" glance and then took off like a bat out of hell. At the next light he was revving a bit and inching up. When the light turned green, I let him get about two car lengths ahead......then I nailed it in first and threw 2nd. By the time I hit 3rd, he was just a memory. At the last light before the parkway, he pulled up next to me. I looked over to give him "smile", and he wouldn't even aknowledge me. Gee, it really ruined my day......

Larry VR4

Date:: 09 Aug 1999
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Boxter's, Z-3's, Kompressor's and Miata's etc. are "Roadsters" - not - "Musclecars"! In my opinion you need at least 300hp before you can start talking about being a "musclecar". And James/Sam, your right about the Honda S2000! The more I read about this new car the more I like it! 9000 rpm red line, 240+hp, -2700lbs., 0-60 in 5.5 sec., but it's on the highway with the VTEC kicked in at 6000 rpm's that this car really begins to scream! Until a speed limiter comes on at 150 mph. What the hell is that? I just bought this '95 VR4 Spyder for 37k and I haven't put it to the test yet but I don't think it has a speed limiter, does anybody know?

Carls' VR4, Austin TX

Date:: 09 Aug 1999
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It's not a war story...just a question 95 3000GT SL VS 95 Legend sedan LS who will win?

Date:: 09 Aug 1999
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It's not a war story...just a question 95 3000GT SL VS 95 Legend sedan LS who will win?

Date:: 09 Aug 1999
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Legend V6 vs. 95 3000 SL. I raced a Legend V6 coupe back when I had my 93 SL. You can beat him barely if you have a manual transmission like I had. If it's an automatic, he could take you. It so close with these two cars, it's going to come down to the driver.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 10 Aug 1999
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Here's my warstory: last week a burglar broke into my house at 2:00AM. He had a microwave and a portable generator strapped to his back, and he told me that he would zap me with 25,000 Jigawatts if if I didn't give him my toothpaste! So what am I to do, right? So I give him my toothpaste and he speeds off in a blue 89 Jimmy. Good thing I put twin turbochargers and nitrous boost in my 1999 Metro this morning, because I took off after him. I followed him onto the freeway and before I knew it we were both going 160 MPH. He tried running me off the road but I took the Chevy Metro performance driving course so I had no problem staying on the road. So when that didn't work he hit a button on his dashboard which fired up his JATO system and he sped up to like 400MPH. He was long gone so I guess I'll never see my precious tube of Colgate again.

Date:: 12 Aug 1999
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I was driving down the highway on a sunny day in my 92 RT/TT and I pulled up beside Porsche Boxster at the stoplight's. This guy was with his girlfriend and he was trying to show off. He challenged me to a race. I told him that I only race car's that are in my class. He was around 18 year old oriental that was really starting to get on my nerve's. He said to me that his Porsche can beat my American piece of **** car any day. I rolled up my passenger window and started to rev my engine. He knew what I was reving for. I really wanted to kill this revved it all the way up to 6000 rpm. Light turned green and I was gone without a trace. Two light's later I decided to wait for him. He pulled up beside me and asked me if I had done anything to my car. I told him that it was an RT/TT. Surprisingly he asked me if I wanted to trade car's. I told him that his car is too slow for me and then I asked his girlfriend if she wanted to trade boyfriend's. She had a little giggle looking at me and when her boyfriend turned to her she stopped giggling. I sped off again never to be seen by that Boxster again.

Ioannis.

Date:: 12 Aug 1999
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Ioannis.

Date:: 14 Aug 1999
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carl, I do believe your car does have a limiter, at about 155mph. But that's ok, Because Ive heard that the porche 911 carera has a stock limiter at 145 or so. so even if he beats you off the line, you'll eventually catch him.

Marks 91 whitelightning vr4

Date:: 15 Aug 1999
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ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT

IOANNIS IS THE GAY BURGLER IN THE 89 JIMMY. TWO DAYS LATER I CAUGHT IOANNIS IN GAY PRONO SHOP TRYING TO USE MY TOOTH PASTE AS LUBE ON HIS ASS TO TAKE IN THE SHE-MALE GIRL FRIEND HE FOUND IN THAT BOXTER HE WAS RACING.

IOANNIS FORGOT TO TELL YOU THAT HE ACTUALLY LOST THE RACE BECAUSE HE TRADE IN THE 89 JIMMY WITH A TT. WHAT A STUPID FAGGOT.

Date:: 16 Aug 1999
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Just a quick story:

I've been trying to sell the original rims for my VR4 for a few months now. I answered a post on this site and linked up with a guy from Mass. (I'm in NY) He made the trip to LI on Saturday, and we did the deal. He had a 95 green GT..lowered, custom performance exhaust, Filter-Charger, etc. His carr looked great and sounded fantastic ! It was good to meet another site member face to face.

Todd,

If you read this, send me a photo of the car once you get the rims mounted ! Hope the drive back to MA wasn't a hassle like the NY trip !

Larry VR4

Date:: 16 Aug 1999
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Here is my war story:

I was driving along yesterday when I saw this 89 Jimmy, so I pulled out my shotgun and blew the s.o.b. away just taking a chance that it might be the same jerk that frequents this web site. Look a__hole, get the hell out of here. You have nothing responsible to say and I am sure I speak for everyone. If you keep this up you'll be the only one in here leaving messages for yourself. Already friends of ours don't come here anymore since you came along. Get the point? Bye!

Date:: 16 Aug 1999
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Das Baresche Motoren Werke ist guten uber der scheistenhagen Mitsubishi Vr4. En der autobahn das Geheime statzpolici klein Deutschland ist uber alles berger nacht verbotten oben aufsteigen!

Heinrich, 1998 Benz C600

Date:: 17 Aug 1999
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Not a way story, but a question for Carl or Spyderman. I found a 1995 VR4 Spyder for sale and I think the bumper has the wrong labels. Does yours say "Spyder VR-4" on the right hand side of the rear bumper? I talked him down to $35.5K (30k miles) black/ivory all stock. Now I have to decide whether to keep the 91 VR4.

Jim

Date:: 17 Aug 1999
Time:: 11:22:24
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Jim '91VR4,

I don't know what yours should say as "stock" because mine is all custom labels aftermarket similar to James' HKS/VR4 and with upgraded computer chips I also learned that I do not have a speed limiter, although, I'm not sure that VR-4's are speed limited anyway. I suggest that you call your local dealership to find out. Also, you'll find that as a Spyder owner you will get VIP treatment at the dealership. In fact, the service department fights over who gets to work on my car! They give it back to me polished, vacuumed, everything! What a deal!

Larry, I am going to Houston this weekend to get some driving tips/advise from James' HKS/VR4 as he is a semi-pro driver and one of the instructors at the local race track and friends with a lot of people from Motor Trend! How exciting!

Carl Austin, TX

Date:: 17 Aug 1999
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Carl, Thanks for your quick response. Actually, the car is at a dealer and I haven't signed the last form yet, but today I plan to take the plunge! Did you find out anything with respect to what Service Bulletins exist on the ASC tops and did you need any work done there? Also, will you be running your spyder around the track? I think there are rules about roll bars in convertibles for tracks in my area. I did take my 91-VR4 to the track last year and had a blast!

Jim 91-VR4

Date:: 17 Aug 1999
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Jim 91-VR4

Date:: 17 Aug 1999
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Hey Carl,

Actually, the VR4 Spyders are speed limited to 155mph but the stock VR4's are drag limited. The 91-92 VR4's managed to get up 162mph in one test back in a 92 issue of Motor Trend Mag.

Jim, the "Spyder VR4" writing is on the right hand side of the rear bumper under the tail light.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 18 Aug 1999
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I am not a car buff but I do know a few things about fine automobiles that are aesthetically flawless. Back in February a friend of mine wrecked a 1993 red MR2 Turbo on a four lane road. He shifted into third gear adn the tire burst under remediate pressure, thus the 2600lb car went into a spin 8 feet off the ground and ended up rammed about three feet up on a tree.

We are talking about a kid who would leave school early to garage his car if it started to drizzle adn wouldn't even drive to school if the roads were wet. No-he is not a freak, he a guy who appreciates a beautiful automobile. His car was not the stock 200HP Turbo. He had done extensive engine mods. The boost had been turned up to a still safe level of 17lbs. and a computer mod G-force had been put into place. The air-intake and dual-hydro exhaust had also been upgraded. The car had a tested 320HP @ the wheels.

VR4s' are in general beautiful cars from afar but a car that damn hefty would never make it around an 80 degree curve at more than 80 mph with a safe traction balance at the wheels. The third cog would surely drop clear out forcing a jump stall or doing a 360 in the middle of the road a few times.

Racing in twisties is also unsuccessful. The MR2 had Tokico 5-ways and 4piston-11inch disks that would haul light weight down easily. Eibach springs are gentle and the car is in general a lot safer than a VR4 due to the steel reinforced engine prods.

I love all sports cars; I mean every car has its own good points and faults. But the power to weight ratio is much more desirable. VR4's come standard with 265 HP roughly, weighing 3500+ lbs. and would only dream of seeing a boost gauge climb to 17 psi. Real sports cars are awesome still-even VR4s'-just kidding. What I always hated the **** out of was the 16 year old with a souped up Honda Civic that thinks there car is better than a luxurious sports car with an engine and tranny in the rear and woiuld be making his car shake with a stereo attempting to race my boyfiend. As a girl let me tell you: a Toyota Camry has that **** beaten any day of the week much less an MR2 Turbo with extensive mods.

MRS. MR2

Date:: 19 Aug 1999
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Mrs. MR2,

Thanks for your interest in sports cars being a women and all, your a rare breed. But that doesn't excuse your ignorance! The VR4 comes factory with 320hp(around -290hp @ the wheels as it is estimated that the drive-train eats at least 30hp), although mine currently is testing @435hp at the wheels on 100 octane. And, YES I have taken 80 degree turns around highway exits at over 100 mph with no fear providing your experienced with throttle steering of which the VR4 offers a unique but rewarding AWD/AWS experience. Although the AWS is only .3 degrees at the rear wheels, thats all you need at that speed. Many people will tell you and I concur that the weight of the VR4 plays in it's favor for traction providing you have wide sticky tires. Lighter vehicles will hit a bump and put space between tire and road, the VR4 feels stuck to pavement. Also I can turn my PSI up to 21 but normally keep it around 17-18 so again I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Further more, I think your friend was fooling around and wouldn't admit it. If your friend's tires are Z rated they never should have blown and shredded that's ridiculous. Those tires can withstand up to 400 degree temperatures and do not "burst" unless he overinflated them. If he was driving so safe how do you go 8 ft. in the air? And lastly the reinforced engine prods are the law for the MR2 becuase of the rear mounted engine that sits directly behind the drivers seat. I would take my VR4 over the MR2 in serious accident any day of the week. A friend of mine was crushed in his VR4 by a tour bus this same time last year and walked away with his only injury come from the drivers' air bag!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 19 Aug 1999
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Damn James, I guess you told her. Are you still running stock turbos in your car or are they 13G, 15G or Garretts?

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 19 Aug 1999
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Does anyone happen to know how many '99 VR-4s were produced for North America?

Date:: 19 Aug 1999
Time:: 14:48:09
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Does anyone happen to know how many '99 VR-4s were produced for North America?

Date:: 19 Aug 1999
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Hello, newcomer to this page. I can't believe how much flaming is going on here, pretty sad. I for one don't have a VR-4, my roommate drives a 320 hp 99 GSX, and I just got a 93 RX-7 (only 40k miles, oh yes...). Anyways, the other day I was driving along and I saw a brand new VR-4 a few hundred feet ahead. I pulled up next to him and peeled out from 40 to let him know I wanted to race. We were both first at the next light, so I revved up to 4500, and I heard him revving up too. The light turns green, boom! My tires are of course spinning like mad, while the AWD 3000GT is <GASP> about a half a car back. I continued to pull further away up through about 100 when I called it quits (with about a 7 car lead). Why is this? Because the VR-4 is overweight and underpowered. Taken by a RWD 255 hp 1.3 liter off the line, tsk tsk tsk. If I had a VR-4 I wouldn't be bragging at all. Never in my life have I ever read a good review of this car.. "boring to drive", "uninspiring", "lots of technology, no soul", etc... Ok, have fun ripping me down on this one.

Date:: 19 Aug 1999
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I came across this site after doing a web search for information on LS1 Corvettes. All of you 3000GT enthusiasts are pathetic. My '89 Vette with the Z51 suspension package will outperform the 3000GT VR4 in all aspects. With $6,000.00 worth of engine mods(heads, cam, roller rockers, intake, etc.) it's all engine, none of that supercharging or turbocharging crap. No wonder 1999 is the last year for the 3000GT in the US; most people with $45-$50,000.00 to spend have better taste and buy a C5 Vette instead.

Date:: 20 Aug 1999
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Marc,Twin Hitachi GT 25/30 ball bearing turbo's w/ enlarged oil coolers, Turbo Timer, Electronic Valve Controller & Vien Pressure Converter to go with it! You know the rest of my mods which are too many to list despite the criticism of RatedZ. Btw, here's my latest times 8/7/99: 0-30 1.8 sec., 0-60 3.9 sec, 1/4 mi. 11.671 @ 119.3 and it was over 90 degrees @ the Texas Motor Speedway!

Mr. C5 man, We've already fought this battle and won! May I remind you that Mitsu did not intend to pare the 3000GT with a Corvette. It's classified as a "Sport Tourier". But, if I got you out on the open road I would tease you and toy with you and then show you who's boss. Go take your $45-50,000 and buy a C5 but I'll bet you don't get laid as often I do!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 20 Aug 1999
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I don't believe that girl saying an MR2 is safer than a VR4. That's like saying a Ford Escort is safer than a Town Car. All of my studies show that the VR4 is the safest of sports cars with reinforced structural and crumple zones everywhere and even more so than others becuase the AWD can tourque the frame, thus the 3700lbs. James did you get the chance to run top speed and if so, what is it?

Sam Mitani

Date:: 20 Aug 1999
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This page is a joke. Especially people like this James guy who don't seem to realize that no matter how much money a person puts into his car there are always going to be other cars that are faster. Just because a tricked out late 1980's Mustang 5.0 can run the 1/4 mile in the 8's does not mean that its a better car than a Dodge Viper or an Acura NSX. James, if you were getting laid so much you wouldn't be wasting your time and energy in here.

B.T.W. "Mr. C5" is a friend of mine(he's the one who told me about this page). His L98 Vette is professionally built, practically every component in his engine is high performance, along with accesories like the cooling system and alternator. He runs high-10's between 122-127 mph...I have seen him run. Sure, there are modified Civics and Integras that will beat this Corvette in the 1/4 mile, but they are still pieces of junk. Those little 4 bangers need all kinds of garbage like NOS and twin turbos to run that fast, so the life of the engines is cut in half. With a naturally aspirated engine(which doesn't seem to exist in any Japanese car except the Acura NSX), the ENTIRE engine is built inside-and-out to not only produce large amounts of power but to be able to handle large amounts of power so they can take beating and last longer. I think I will tell a few of my friends about this page so they can come in a get a good laugh too.

Date:: 20 Aug 1999
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Okay I haven't been here in a long time. Reason being, that stupid 89 Jimmy guy. Now that he's gone the site is getting a bit better.

Mrs. MR2, Okay what can I say to this post. Well it's still an MR2 no matter how fast it goes. I don't think an MR2 is safer than an MR2. In a head on collision, with my car, your little boyfriend will be eating my dodge symbol.

'93 RX-7, Obviously the guy/gal in the VR4 didn't know how to launch the VR-4. I've noticed it's more difficult to launch an AWD car compared to a RWD car. OH, btw, have fun buying a new engine for your car at about 80,000 miles. Oh and don't increase the boost on the car you'll blow your Apex seals. Otherwise, nice car, I almost bought one, but it's too narrow. Basically a Miata with 255 HP.

Mr. 1989 'Vette Z51, Wow, a 1989 'vette, GREAT! Ugliest car ever made with the exception of the new C5. Haven't we already had this conversation, on this site, about turbos and superchargers. I believe the Callway C5 has a Twin Turbo setup. Gee, you must be so ashamed. Actually I was watching Motor Trend the other day and they had an old 'Vette like 90, 91 or 92, I'm not sure of the year with a Twin Turbo setup. It was producing almost 600 HP. And all those Formula 1 and CART cars have small displacement engines with Turbos on them.

It's only Americans who think "There's no replacement for displacement". Even the most exotic cars in the world don't have huge displacement engines. The Lamborghini Diablo has a V12 5.7L and the Ferrari F355 has a V8 3.5L.

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT

Date:: 20 Aug 1999
Time:: 14:48:22
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This is a site for 3000GT owners so of course we're bragging our cars. I wouldn't be caught dead in a poorvette no matter how fast it is. The difference between your "fast Vette" and my car is when I valet park they put my car right up front. You get parked in the back of the building, end of story!

Carls' Spyder

Date:: 21 Aug 1999
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Another interesting fact. I was reading this article in Sports Illustrated concerning roller coasters. Don't ask me why such an article would be in SI. Anyway, there's this roller coaster that goes from 0-100 in 7 seconds. Then I got to thinking. The fastest 3KGT on this site has run the 1/8 in 6.9 @ 100mph!! That part is certainly cool in itself, but did you realize that that speed exerts 4.5 G's on the driver... and is equivalent to an F-16 Falcon taking off from the deck of an aircraft carrier!!! How's that for a LAUNCH? Anyway I thought it was cool to put that sort of speed into perspective. And that's why I don't want a corvette. You'd have to buy tires constantly, and at 300 each, that might get a litte cost prohibitive. And another thing... Who owns vettes? Everyone. I live in a small town. There are roughly 8 corvettes. There are 0 VR4's. I want something that stands out. You guys can take your Corvettes - they're eyecatchers, but not headturners. And James is right... the vette doesn't even have a back seat....pity.

Jato

Date:: 21 Aug 1999
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Just to add to what Jato said, The VR4 is probably the only sports car that you can drive safely year round, no matter where you live. It's also one of the safest if not the safest sports car around and very reliable. Sure it has it's problems just like any other car but you sure don't have to worry about your engine blowing up or cracking in the engine block. So sad, while the C5 owners have to store their cars for the winter, I'm still cruising in my VR4 with no worries.

Marc's 97 VR4

Date:: 22 Aug 1999
Time:: 11:58:19
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What's this? A bunch of snobby kids and ivy league stiffs whose rich daddies bought them a 3000gt? Or a bunch of Japanese shmucks? Or both? Get over yourselves. If your cars are so appealing then why are there hardly any of them on the road? $45,000 for AWD and AWS, which still doesn't make it handle any better than a C5, Viper, or Saleen Mustang on the track? You guys who drive your expensive cars in the snow are idiots because the undercarriage and lower body panels are going to be corroded away and rusted through within a couple of years. If you can afford to spend that much money on a sports car you should be able to afford an old "beater" 4X4 or Subaru AWD wagon for driving around in the winter. The Corvette and Viper home pages do have message boards, but the people who frequent them talk about stuff like engine mods, instead of saying **** like "this guy in a VR4 wanted a piece so I floored it in my Vette and kicked his ass real bad" or "when I valet park they put my Viper right up front and all the VR4's get parked in the back of the building." What a bunch of condescending dickheads you guys are.

Date:: 22 Aug 1999
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Everybody already knows that the Callaway/Lingenfelter twin turbo Vettes are mechanically unreliable and usually need an engine overhaul before 60K miles. For the price of a Callaway/Lingenfelter Corvette, a person could have the engine built up by a performance shop to produce nearly as much power as the twin turbo setup with much more reliability. Turbocharging is a second-rate method of gaining horsepower and torque. The engines in exotics like Ferraris and Lamborghinis are normally aspirated. Those small displacement engines produce a lot of power because every little aspect of them is high performance, right down to the piston rings. Plus, the Italians are brilliant engineers. With $10-15K a GM, Chrysler, or Ford V6 could be built by a performance shop to produce over 300 horsepower without supercharging or turbocharging. The world's most highly-praised sports cars are normally aspirated. To sum it all up in a few words, turbocharged cars suck.

Date:: 22 Aug 1999
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this dumb **** dont know what he is talking about Callaway/Legenfelter failed because they are dealing with crapy american engine. turbo cars are great that is why we have world class porsche 911 turbo and lamborgini diablo turbo as their flagship. so what if 10 or 15 would give your crapy gm or ford engine 300hp, for that money, it would give a turbo car 500 or 600 hp. turbo cars are the kings. I tell you even a 4 banger on integrte is better performer than your crapy inefficient american 5.0 v8. lets do the math. ford (corba) and chev (ss) v8 are about 320hp. honda 2.0 4 banger on a s2000 is 240hp. if that honda double the number of the cylinder to 8 that will double the hp to 480hp, and this is still at 2.0 displacement. if you double the displacement to 4.0...... what dont you calculate yourself..... or maybe you trailer trash dont know how to multiply? pity.

Date:: 22 Aug 1999
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It's awfully pathetic that some of the visitors are upset because we're driving a 40K car. Don't be upset. I think C5's are worth the 40K to 50K that Chevy is asking for but you couldn't pay me to own a Camaro or Mustang. I'm not impressed with those cars. Basic people need a basic car and that's what the Camaro and Mustangs are, V8 or no V8. Someone mentioned that are daddies had to get our cars, well I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I paid cash for my car while YOUR daddy had to finance your piece of crap car for you. I betcha some of these visitors are still in high school and have to cut grass on the weekends to put some money in their pockets. What a bunch of juvenile a$$holes.

Tony J. - "Paid 4" VR4

Date:: 23 Aug 1999
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Word is out that Chevrolet is working on a replacement for the LT5 engine that powered the Corvette ZR1. It will most likely be named the LS5 to correspond to the newer LS1 engine. It will basically be a heavily modified DOHC 32V version of the LS1, just as the LT5 was to the LT1. This highly-refined engine will make an estimated 475-500 hp and 410-415 lb/ft of torque. As for the name of the Corvette that this engine will be dropped into, nobody knows yet. Possibly the "2nd generation" ZR1. Whatever it's called, it's going to be faster than the current Dodge Viper GTS, with projected 0-60 times dipping into the mid-to-high 3's and quarter mile times in the low 10's at between 125 and 130 MPH.

Date:: 23 Aug 1999
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Well it appears Mr C5 man told all his redneck friends about this site over the weekend because they all came and had unintelligent things to say as I suspected they would.

OK, Carl came down from Austin, we went out to the drag strip with 12 friends from town and 2 from San Antonio. All things said we had 2 VR4's, 2 Viper's, 2 NSX-T's, 3 Porsche's (1 '99 Carrera-4 w/ aftermarket TT)<= that car is awesome <:+), 1 Ferrari GTO, 1 Lotus V8 Turbo, 1 Spupra TT and yes...2 Corvette's. Just a bunch of guys with class having fun not the Budweiser parties our redneck visitors might have had. Anyway, we had full access to everything the World Class Houston Drag Strip has to offer, but, we had to wait till after hours. That's OK because it was cooler and thankfully Huricanne Bret visited our friends to the South and let us have fun! My car ran the fastest yet w/ 1/4 mi. in 11.124. DAMN IT, I almost joined the 10 club! The Porsche C4 ran a 10.8 and one of the Vipers ran a 10.9 but 2 out of 4 of the American cars were feeling sick...go figure! But everybody did better than 15 sec's so we all had fun! More to come as soon as Jason puts it on his web site!

James HKS/VR4

Date:: 23 Aug 1999
Time:: 11:40:03
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Mr. Mitani,

First, are you the same "Sam Mitani" that has been popping up in car magazines driving the new Honda S2000 and if so, I want your job! To answer your question, August 7th I attempted to take my car to top speed at TMSpeedway but of all the things I have done this is the scariest! I got up to 186 mph on radar (speedometer showed 192) w/ about 600-700rpm to spare before I called it quits. Had I kept going I probably would have cleared 190 or so w/ the .59:1 ratio in 6th! Maybe next time. James' HKS/VR4

Date:: 23 Aug 1999
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Does anyone know how many '99 VR4s were made? Are they all gone at this point?

Date:: 23 Aug 1999
Time:: 22:11:59
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Looks like the 3000GT is meeting the same fate as the Nissan 300ZX did 3 years ago. It was bound to happen since only a die hard Japanese car fan would waste his money on a $45,000 piece of ka ka. Guys, we'll just leave the miserable VR4 owners to themselves and let their egos rot them from the inside out.

Date:: 24 Aug 1999
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In '92 when Toyota dropped the Supra people couldn't believe it. Then in '93 there were rumors that there might be a new one. When '94 came Toyota launched a new Supra that shocked the world and set a higher standard for sports cars and indeed forced Chevrolet to make a better Corvette and that was also the year that Mitsubishi redesigned the 3000GT. Folks, if this is the last year for the 3000GT, fine! Mitsubishi is not going to say because that gives competition an advantage. Just don't rush out and buy a Crapmaro because that line is ending too!....But they'll all be back so long as there is money to be made.

Date:: 24 Aug 1999
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Well it was nice to finally get to open up my new car, thanks again for inviting me down. A bit dissapointing 14.3 sec 1/4 mi. @ 94 mph not the 11 sec. romp James had. I can't wait till we do it again.

Carls' Spyder

Date:: 25 Aug 1999
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Any VR4 owners in chicago Question Are there any good mechanics where i can take my car to get a new clutch put in. I don't want to take it to the dealer. I just bought my 92 vr4 lov it alot but very expensive to maintain. The regulator in the clutch makes the noise when i don't have the clutch all the way in. Plus when the car is standing still it is very difficult to put in 1st or rev. i have to drop it down to 4th to be able to slide in to the 1st gear. So i am thinking why don't i just get a new clutch put in. It has about 90k miles but still in perfect condition no rust, no dents, and chicks dig it.

Date:: 25 Aug 1999
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Date:: 25 Aug 1999
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To the guy with the 92 VR4, try Car Boutique on Harlem Avenue. They put in my boost controller and exhaust system. They're about average as far as cost goes.

Marc's 97 VR4

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