War Stories
Archive 1

List Member Road Kills.

War Story Archive: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Date:
07 Jan 1999
Time:
18:59:32

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One night me and one of my friends were out in my 91 ES DOHC(222hp).We were just cruising around minding our own business when this buttstang 5.crow pulled up beside us revving his engine and acting like he wanted a piece(I think it was a 94 I'm not sure of the year,I hate mustangs).I wasn't driving so I told my friend to rev my car up to 2,200 rpms then drop the clutch when the light hit red.I yelled at the other driver and told him to get ready to eat dust.The jerk responded by giving his car a deep rev.I was getting pissed about now and I wasn't gonna let this guy beat me.The light hit green and we were down the road like a rocket we were going about 30 in 1st gear.The mustang was right beside us,it was time to go into 2nd,but my synchronizer was giving me a lot of problems (and still is,I do have a new synchro.THANKS JACK T.) So we had to go into 3rd that didn't work to good, my car wasn't getting enough acceleration,So we had to wait a few seconds for it to get to the proper speed/rpm to start throwing me back in the seat again.Once we got enough power I start to notice we were really gaining on the stang(he was about 3/4 of a block ahead now).We got the rpms up to about 6 then we were in 4 and about 110-118mph, at that speed we just kept climbing before I knew we were at about 130 and passed that stang like we were a rocket and it was sitting still.When we pulled ep to another light(about5 miles away). I switched my friend and waited for the buttstang, when he got there I revved my engine to see if he wanted any more,but he turned right.I'm glad I had some luck that day good(we won),and(bad the 2nd gear trouble).I wish I had 2nd that day so I could of really smoked him.


Date:
07 Jan 1999
Time:
21:49:41

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War stories, well my war story goes like this. One night, while driving home from a exhaustive studying session for tests, a Z28 decides to challenge me at a stop light. Now, I was dead tired and just wanted to relax to some tunes and leisurely drive home. At the light the Z28, I believe it was a '97, starts to rev its engine (I have a '92 VR4 with a couple of modifications). I tried to ignore the stubborn fool, but he just wouldn't stop. I casually placed the car in gear and proceeded to drive normally. Well, this guy drives alongside of me reving his engine and doing short peelouts to egg me on. I continue to ignore this guy, but he continued to "show off". He proceeded to cut me off and slam on the brakes. By this time I was hot and pulled in the next lane and we got ready at the light. I dialed in about 14 psi on the good ole blitz dual selonoid (I think thats how its spelled) boost controller. By this time he was having a good time reving his ass off. I took the car up about 2500 rpms, and waited for the light. The light turned green and I dumped the clutch. The Z28 peeled some rubber for a while and I took this time to accelerate away (thank goodness for AWD). The Z28 was gaining so I decided to shift, whooosh, was the only sound that came from the blow off valve, and I was gone. I got to about 120 and decided to shut it down. The crapmaro, I mean camaro was a good distance in the rear view. So I slowed down to the speed limit to see if the guy wanted to talk. The guy pulls up reving his engine again, can you believe this guy he wanted to race again. I said to myself "f$@k it" and turned away. Well that was my Z28 war story, it might not be as glamourous as others but its something to tell the customers at the shop. B. Chen


Date:
08 Jan 1999
Time:
01:55:28

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I was driving to Arizona in my 3 month old 95 "Yeller" vr4. While going through the Salt River Canyon I went to pass a truck down hill and in third gear. The throttle stuck fast to the floor. The brake was of little help and just before going for the key, the gas peddle released. The floormat had worked it's way forward ( the dealer braintrust hadn't put the tab lock on the floor to hold the mat in position) What an adventure! I was a soprano the rest of the day.


Date:
08 Jan 1999
Time:
09:07:49

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It was a dark rainy night in December...(Dont you love it when stories start like that?) I was driving my '96 VR4 up the main drag in town...A 6 lane (3 each direction) 45mph strech of concrete with stop lights strategically placed so you have to stop every damn block. It was about 1:30am when I first saw it there..and old American "Muscle Car" next to me on my left. Nose dipping to the ground as the rear tires spun at about 10,000 RPM smoking on the pavement. I was ready to call the EPA because of all the toxic smoke emitting from this rednecks beast. The light turned green and he was off like a swerving , smoking, choking, gassguzzling rusty beast. It was about 3 seconds later I pulled next to him at the next red light. His antics coninued for 7...yes 7 more red lights. Finally...after creating an ammount of smoke on ar only with an oil well fire, I heard a horn honking to my right...It was another American "Sports Car"- a 199? Ford Probe GT. He signaled for me to roll down my window...As i did he asked if I could take my "Rice Burner" and kick the **** out of the red necks car...What was I to do? How could I possiby not oblidge my fans? So I had to do it, I looked to the right to see the redneck in his 1986 DefLeppard black concert T-Shirt. Grease onder his fingernails and all. He smiled his toothless grin (for real - he did) and flipped me off...Now was my time. As the light turned green I hit it...I think I was 1/4 mile down the road before he even got his tires to bite the damp pavement...as I entered 5th, I looked down to see i was doing over 125mph...I had to land now...as I feathered the brakes to slow I got the next red light...the Evil red neck pulled up and yelled to me..yeah!!! Well F***You!!! I have a "Real Car"...American Muscle!!!...Such a shame Americn Muscle is so weak. ( I blame unions and democrats for that)


Date:
08 Jan 1999
Time:
16:07:56

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Here is a war story for all the people that dont like mustangs, not ford, but mustangs.

OK,, I live in a town called Woodbury Tennessee. And if you dont have a mustang in this town, then you are some weirdo or something... I'm talking a buttload of these mustangs, all different kinds. It's like a religion and there taking the pilgrimage to the meca (the town) each night.

Anyway, my dad drives a 93 vr-4, it's tight stuff man. He never lets me or my brother drive it. Until one night. He finally let my brother drive it,, mr bro is 19 and i'm 17.

Now, both of us really hate mustangs,, so right there we decided to destroy every mustang in town that we could find. So we went henceforth.

The first victim was a black, mid 90's GT... and he wanted a peice,, so we broke him off as planned.. i dont even know if he was in the rearview anymore.

on the way back from racing that one,, we found a blue one,, with flowmasters and some junk,, yipppe ,, like its really gonna help him,, anyway,, we messed him up pretty badly.

next was an old body style 5.0,,, well,, you know the outcome of that one..

then a z28 wanted a peice too,, we couldnt believe our eyes at the ignorance of the people in the town. well , we broke him off something special.

then came the hardest match of the night.. a red GT.. the thing that made it so hard was that the punk had it floored way beofre we did,, He started creeping up,, we didnt really know what it was yet,, then i recongized the headlights,, so we floored it.. he kept creeping up,, i was suprised, (after this i made my own theory,, its called the punch theory,, it says, if any car slow or fast, punches it before you,, then its not gonna be really easy to catch up,,)

now this stang had it punched for a good 7 seconds before we did.. he almost passed us..! but noooo,,, my bro took 3rd up really high,, then when we hit 4th,, we took off.. it was a great feeling..

so after the night was over,, we had broken off over 5 stangs,, including some nasty v6 ones... we never could find the mustang cobra that drives around,, that would have been a good race..

but we felt that our mission had been complete,, so we took the tight stuff home,, and ever since i've had a great time telling the story of "The day the mustangs died"

thanks for reading this,, more stories are likley to come.. C-ya

"Rice Rockets kick arse"


Date:
09 Jan 1999
Time:
18:52:40

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War stories....here's one of mine. Where I live, it seems like everybody has an Eclipes, Integra, Accord, or a Civic. Fortunately my family doesn't have either one of them. We use to have a '96 Accord, but we got rid of it. We were always a Toyota family(4 Supras, 2 Celicas, 1 Land Cruiser, 1 4Runner, 1 Lexus) until my brother brought home a White '92 VR-4. He said I could drive whenever I want and he even gave me a copy of the car key. I'm glad that Mitsubishi has VR-4 on the rear of the car than Twin Turbo. People here don't know what VR-4 means and they automatically think you have a Eclipes when you say "I drive a Mitsubishi."

Anyway, here's my racing story. I was heading home from my friend's house at 12:00 midnight one night and there was an '88-'89 Integra that passed me up at about 70 mph. I was going 45 mph speed limit. Right when he passed me I knew he wanted to race me. He slowed down and waited for me to catch up to him and then he speeds off again. This went on for about three or four more times and that's when I said to myself, "This guy is asking to get smoke and I'm gonna give it to him." We finally stopped at a red light and I didn't even look at him. I knew and he knew that it was on. Both of us roaring our engines, the light turned green and I took off while he was still burning his tires. (Whoooo, thank god for AWD.) In a matter of seconds I was so far ahead I looked at my side mirror and thought he had given up. Suddenly a van pulled right infront of me so I hit the brakes. While I was cruising behind the van I could hear the Integra coming. I could of changed lanes and continue the race,but smoking him one time is enough for me. He finally passed me up and I just laughed and went on my way.

I just wish people here with Eclipes, Integras, Accords, and Civcs would know their manners when a VR-4 pulls up next to them. That goes to people with Mustangs, Trams Ams, and Cameros too.

My brother just bought a new Montero so he said that I could have the VR-4 if I want. Since I don't have a car, it's going to be mine pretty soon.

Date:
10 Jan 1999
Time:
12:44:29

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Well, I got a 95 3000gt (the regular one) all my friends have American V8 cars. They made fun of me because they said my car was slow so we went to the track. My first race was my friends mustang gt 5.0 it had flowmasters and he was looking at me and laughing so I got mad and I hit it and beat him. I lost my second race to a 96 5.7 transam he beat me bad. I missed 2nd gear and I was too nervous. My best timing for the day was 13.321 112mph. My friends did not know about my boarded heads, HKSvalves, clutchmaster, k&n, only thing they knew was about my boria exhaust custom down piping, i also took my passenger seat out. Bought some high octane gas from the track. My friends never talked junk ever again.We have a car club name DISTINCTIVE CREATION. ALEX ZAIMOV


Date:
10 Jan 1999
Time:
17:02:31

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Here's my favorite war story.I own a 91 Stealth ES Dohc(222hp).Anyways these 2 redneck idiots who used to be my friends had to make fun and talk crap about how my 2nd gear grinded everytime i shifted into it.Now I'm not a very big guy and they're pretty big so I couldn't just whip their aces.So I just said it was the synchronizer everytime they said something.One night(the first night I got my license actually).I say one them on the road with hiw bad 1984 Monte Carlo puck white with rust.He thought he was awsome because he had a V8 *LOL*. We were at a stop light and he actually revved his engine like he wanted a piece,thn flipped me the bird .I was MAD now,so put my beast into 1st and revved it up to 2200rpms.the light hit green and I dropped the clutch,he put his to floor but his car wouldn't even spin the tires,meanwhile I was spinning my tires like crazy until the tack hit about 1500rpms then I was off like a rocket.I passed him before he was halfway through the block.I put my best into 3rd and was off like a rocket again.i didn't see him for 4 more blocks,when i did I revved my engine and honked my horn to see if he wanted some more.He respounded by turning left.The other guy with a 1982 ford F100(this truck is so junky I can't even describe it),I have only seen on the road a couple times and when I saw him he avoide me,or acted like he didn't see me.I could get in their faces about how I can smoke both of them easy,but for one thing I enjot being able to walk,another I don't want my windows smashed or car keyed,and another I feel better just knowing I can smoke them easy and them knowing it.


Date:
11 Jan 1999
Time:
07:08:49

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I think the VR-4 and the C5 are off and on in performance. the C5 has got us on top speed, we have it on cornering. The vette, has us on weight, and Horsepower. But even so it is a very good race. My ex g/f's dad had a 98 C5. It was the best race I _ever_ had. We went everywhere, the expressway, tight, rough twisty roads, smooth twisty roads, stoplight to stoplight (amazing we didn't get pulled over). Here is what happened. I have a stock 92 VR-4 with a drier hose bringing a little cold air to the airbox :-) this was a little weekend toy we put together for 5 bucks.

Freeway: we pulled onto I15 Nothbound, from the onramp on up i was absolutely SIDE by SIDE. Nobody gained an inch I'm not kidding. Side by side, like we were at eachother's thoats till 140mph, then alas, I was beaten... his car pulled away till there was some traffic and we had to slow, he seemed to be having trouble to stop in time though :-( he did manage before he plowed a nice brand new Galant GTZ. Anyway we got off the express way

Stage two: Indian Hills Dr. It is a rough extremely curvy road, almost as bad as super-touring tack.. He was toast, didn't even stand a chance. Of course driver skill does play a _major_ part in this race. Then he argued that the AWD was letting me win because of the roughness of the road, so we headed on a brand new perfectly smooth road which wasn't wuite so sharp of turns but still pretty tough to negotiate. I stomped him pretty good. Like 150ft lead after a little over a mile. I know 150ft doesn't sound like much but in a race I'd be lapping him in five laps. We took a 30mph turn on a well traveled road at 95 MPH its a good damn thing there were no cops to be seen! Indian Hills Dr. is 25mph road, and I topped 120! anyway, it was alot of fun, and as long as both people don't get too cocky and get an attitude about loosing it's alot of fun. Especially when both drivers are experienced racers, and don't push it too much to where somebody gets hurt. My g/f had a heart attack when we told her about the race, but she got over it. The C5 is a formidable opponent don't get me wrong. There are a few things I like about the C5.. One the RWD to 340 hp makes for some wicked cool burnouts, and 360 spins etc. The styling is beutiful. I think the 3000GT is the best looking car under 100k. And the versatility is why I bought it. I'd like to see the C5 drive up to Brian Head in 3" of snow, or drive in the rain etc. But it is one fast little bugger no doubt. I think it's a high 4's 0-60.


Date:
13 Jan 1999
Time:
17:18:21
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Late night, driving my yellow 94 VR4 home after a long hard day at work, I come up to and pass a yelow M3 (lowered, bigger wheels, drain pipe exhaust) on the nearly empty freeway and a red Boxter mixing it up. 15 seconds later the yellow M3 pulls up alongside and makes like he wants to race (poor fool). The Boxter is nowhere to be seen (wise fool). So we both floor it and the M3 is absolute history in 2 seconds flat. I get carried away listenting to 7000 RPM pop offs all the way through 4th-5th. Then I realize that I am approaching tripple speed limit so I back off and chill.

Meanwhile, the M3 comes screeming up the fast lane and then slows alongside me again and makes like he wants to race again. This time I give him a 2 count before hitting the loud pedal. We enter a 1/2 mile tunnel side by side both pulling a glorious, hardly silenced, sheet ripping 7000 as I blast past him. I am sure that the tunnel reverborated sound is as close to heavenly music as you can get in this life.

The M3 driver is so focussed on me blowing by him that he forgets to a shift and I hear his motor bouncing off the rev limiter (ouch!!). I get off the gass when I am about 200 yds ahead and he pulls alongside again ! So we race again! Same result. This goes on for four or five sprints, always with the same outcome (naturaly). By my count VR4 6, M3 0.

There is a god!


Date:
14 Jan 1999
Time:
20:10:15
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Its been snowing in New Jersey and I am still amazed at how well this car drives in the snow. Well, this is funny because when it snowed the second time, I had on my snow tires and combined with my low center of gravity, this car really flies in the snow. My co-worker owns a dodge ram and always scoffs at my "rice crap" as he calls it (a black vr4 1995). Well, today we were parked at work and both of us were plowed in. He has bald back tires, so he was stuck even in 4-wheel drive. He saw me laugh as I warmed up Mushi (my pet name for her). He yelled out the window that my piece of crap was probably frozen in place. Much to his dismay, I swiftly pulled out from the spot and stopped to help him shovel his back tires out.

I love this car-beautiful, versatile, a car for all seasons.


Date:
15 Jan 1999
Time:
10:44:06
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Don't you hate in when those lowsy little Honda's try to race your 300 horse VR-4?!! I laugh so hard at them and just let them have there glory and NOT race them. But that's not my story, lol. I have many good ones with my '92 VR-4. No mods, but hoping to change that soon. I have raced T/A's, many Vette's, many Camaro's, few muscle cars, and yes, even Mustangs. A BMW motorcycle once to just to have a little fun. But one race that sticks out in my head, and always will happened in '93, year after I got the beauty. I was headin' to St. Louis from Kansas City (where I live). I had set off at around 11pm, and I was out for a good cruise at night. Well what I didn't know is that another fella from KC that night was going to do the same. Coincidentally, we had met up on I-70 at the same time. It was a '95 red Porsche 911 Turbo. We saw each other on this open 4-lane highway, and it was apparent we were going to have fun. But what didn't know each other, and we didn't know each other was heading to St. Louis. So from my point of view, I was pretty shocked that outta all the cars that could hvae been on the road that night, it was a 911 Turbo. Well we had our little run through town, and we had a blast trying to get in front of each other. But then, we got on the open road, and neither of us got off. We were both heading the same direction on every turn. When we got on the open road, nothing was in our way, so it was a race of top speed. Being smart, neither one of us apparently wanted to red line our motors all night, so we decided to stick side by side at around 140 mph. But if one of pulled forward an inch, we were prepared. What was normally a 3 1/2-4 hour trip, took 2 hours. We ended up stopping in St. Louis and having a chat in a little cafe. So it was fun. :)


Date:
19 Jan 1999
Time:
18:40:43
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Here it goes...It was a long night on I-10. To leave from Destin to Tallahassee was a mission. Not only was I recovering from a good a buzz, but I had to drive my little brother back to Tallahassee with me so he could have his little adventure touring Florida State University's campus. As I was cruising @ 85 mph. I see the shine of bright white lights. Thinking it was a Lexus or Infinity I paid no attention to it. Until it got side by side with me and there it was two little red-necks in a 9? Intergra. It was white with some aftermarket rims...As it pulled away I saw a Type-R sticker on the back...Well I've read up on Type-R Integras and thought hey that was suppose to be the elite of Integras from Japan. So me and My 98 VR-4 Ruby took off after them. Well these guys must've had custom tailored pants...I mean it takes Big Balls to slow down. We were doing about 30 mph and than he punched it...I heard the little four-banger scream...And so I punched it and all the Integra could hear was the psssst. the blow-off valve made as I just passed them as if it were standing still. Well the next thing I knew they were long gone and behind me. Well a couple of miles down the road I did what anyother normal driver would do. Slow back down. Until I saw the two bright lights again....As if I thought these guys had enough. Well as they gaining on me I saw that this time they weren't going to slow down. So I dropped my Ruby in 3rd and punched it. My poor brother, I thought he was going to get whiplash. As I pulled away I started to mess with them by blocking them off and than letting them try to get around me and than take off. Well the about 20 miles away from Tallahassee and doing about 110 I see this car and I just passed it up. Well, well it was a fellow 3KGT owner...This guy in his car I guess thought about passing me up, but decided to give me my respects and stay behind me. And than it happened my exit was coming up and that damn little integra was coming up. But the best thing about this story was that not only did I beat the Integra the 3000GT SL 94 - 96 model did as well....Can we say wannabe Type R integra Driver...Some people I guess think Stickers make the car look and drive faster Ha ha ha.

Will 98 3000GT VR4


Date:
15 Feb 1999
Time:
08:49:40
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After returning some belts to NAPA this past Saturday, I was waiting to merge with traffic after finally doing so I noticed a lil' red mazda RX7 pulling up to my right. I knew he saw the two large 5 inch exhaust tips coming out the back of my MitsuMonster and just knew he would be intimidated, but to my surprise he wanted to run. OK, if that's the way you want it, I'll just set my Blitz boost controller for 16 psi and punch it. Well we got caught in traffic and I could not really have a go at him, but finally we got on 75 south in Marietta, Ga. and both of us hit it and moved to the fast lane. To my surprise he was with me, well fine I'll take it up to 145. As I was approaching 150 I noticed the RX7 pass me like I was standing still (170 or so). I finally caught up to the guy and mouthed to him "is that stock?" He waved his finger no and put up two fingers and made a circular motion. I assume he had two upgraded turbos.

I must say I was very distraught by the whole incident and now will be forced to do more drastic work on the car.

To the guy in the (arrest me red) Mazda RX7 much respect for now, but let's see what ya do when I jump from 420hp to 600hp.


Date:
17 Feb 1999
Time:
20:46:10
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listen up,all you camaro,firebird,non-believers.iv'e owned 2 z28's,and 1 firehawk ramair. and none of them ,i repeat none of them could hold a candle to my 91,vr4 . i'm sure at some time,and some place in your miniscule lives,that you have indeed beaten a vr4,i believe you honestly,and so does the tooth fairy! the only way that you beat a vr4 is because of two little words,'CRAPPY DRIVING'. not everyone knows how to drive like big daddy don garlits.you were probably racing a 15 year old dr.s brat, that just recieved his provisional license. to this day ,i toy with camaros & firebirds,on a daily basis just like iv'e been doing for the last 7 years. and i still do it today with 136,000 miles on the clock. the motor has just been rebuilt 2 weeks ago,with a few mods done to it as well. not to mention aftermarket turbos, and several other goodies. as soon as i get some break in mileage on it i'll be runnin her again. so if you still think that a Z28 is faster! heres some suggestions #1,race someone that knows how to drive #2 stop racing SL's, and telling everyone it was a vr4. i know that embarrisment can be bad ,but just think about all of your bretheren ,that have to go out and tell everyone that thier light z28 350cu.in. monster v-8, just got royally greased by a 3500+lb. 176 cu.in. rice burning v-6. go pick a camaro of your choice, and i'll find a high mileage vr4 on a 'we finance',car lot, and i'll smoke you , how you say? cause i've been drag racing for 11 years,and i know how to get the job done. maybe thats why my vr4 's present dyno test results show 642hp. and i still have numerous mods to do to it. you think im rude don't you. i have a right to be ,just think about me going into a firebird,camaro, lovers discussion room and trashing everyone there. not too cool . so until then i'll just keep lovin my vr4. but the truth hurts don't it mr.Z28.


Date:
19 Feb 1999
Time:
06:37:51
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It was a normal Sunday morning for me....on the way back home with the paper and some fresh crumb buns for breakfast. I stop at a light, and up along side me this electric blue Mustang 5.0 coupe pulls up. Sounds like some engine work......flowmasters, oversized tires on the back. Well, the driver and his buddy are looking over my car when the passenger window rolls down and an inquiry is made.."is that the turbo model ?" they ask. I say "No, just the SL, why ?" I get a comment back "I beat them all the time....I even beat the turbos !"

OK, now the light turns green......electric blue launches spinning those Gatorbacks. I launch and jump ahead by about 4 car lengths. I get to the next light, and after what seems like hours, the Mustang finally gets there. The window comes down again....."Are you sure that's not the turbo ???" I say "Why, is the turbo supposed to be faster ? Cause I think this car is mostly for show, not for go" Well, no response from Mr. M.....just a sad look and a slow take off when the light changes.

My car has no stickers, letters, names etc. on it anywhere.......took 'em all off when I first got it. Tricky, huh ?

Larry 1998 VR 4


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Here is a nice war story for everyone to enjoy. Please stop the childish bickering and give us our war stories page back.

I was out with my wife and her friend and her husband. The four of us went to dinner and then bowling. Parked right in front of the doors of the bowling alley was this white '98 Ford Mustang Cobra. He was parked on a small concrete divider near the entrance and not in a regular spot. Quite the spectacle. It had Enkie wheels and looked very nice, for a rustang anyway. As fate would have it the buttstang driver and his two friends were leaving as the same time we were.

I let out with a not so quiet remark that "if I didn't have four people in the car..." Both of us left the parking lot and I flashed my fog lights and proceeded to pull up beside him, to make him well aware of a challenge. By his response he was ready willing and able.

It was just after 11:00 at night. Nights here in Oklahoma usually have a decent amount of humidity. It was perfect conditions for my VR-4 to really sing. She is a dark green '92 VR-4 with 49K miles, only two small mods, an amsoil air filter and a wastegate bypass valve. You can see a picture at www.forgedesign.com/mycar/

We did the normal leapfrog dance until we could get to a light. I am a bit nervous...I have three passengers and a full tank of gas. I had to weigh close to two tons. I have heard that a VR-4 can beat a Cobra, but every car is different. The light changes.. I can hear his car roar and lurch forward. I fixate on his black rimmed hood scoops. I dumped too much clutch and was bogging down. We were still even up though the intersection. So I took her to redline and made a great shift into 2nd. I could just feel his frustration in his engine RPM as I left him behind. I was that desperate sound of "I have no more to give"

My first race against a Cobra, and I was victorious. I had been wanting to bag a cobra ever since I bought the car in September of '98. I knew he would want a second chance, a chance to redeem himself, and his car. We did not come to a complete stop at the next light so we did a rolling launch. I heard him hit it and then I put the pedal to the metal. Again I took the lead and crept away from him. We had to slow for some light traffic, but he never passed me.

He of course was distraught and probably angry. Light three, he signaled his intentions to go yet again. We missed the red light so we did another rolling launch. Again I waited to hear him stomp on it. Then I spanked him hard. He did not want to give up and I kept it down until we had to stop for the next light. He never did catch me even at 110mph.

Ok finally a red light. Sure why not 4th times a charm. I heard his tires loosing a bit of traction, but I dumped the clutch with perfect timing and just shot forward like a rocket. He was in my rearview mirror at only 70 mph. I flipped my tail (rear wing) at him a couple of times just to rub it in.

He pulled up beside me and we had a small chat. He said he was stock and had never been beaten by a 3000GT. I think that snake has a new respect for the VR-4.


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Date:
27 Feb 1999
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18:02:39
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Well, a few weeks ago, I was beaten on a very twisty mountain road by an M3. I have an excuse though...besides my lack of skill...I had severely underinflated BALD tires. His car was obviously on. The other guy lived up there too, so he had some experience on those roads. That was only my fourth time driving those roads. Anyways, today I got my revenge!

I was driving on Wolfe Rd. (SJ) and there was a little traffic, but not much. I see a silver M3 swerving between ppl behind me and then he passes me on the right. We come together at a light, and I'm not sure if he wants to race or not. I look at him, but he ignores me. When the light turned green, I didn't launch it, but I left the line fairly quickly. I didn't floor it right away, but when I heard him floor it, it took me about a nanosecond to respond. I shifted to second, about a half car ahead of him, and I hear his tires chirp as he does the same. I take second up to 70 (35 posted) and begin to slow down because I had pulled a 1.5 car lead already. He passes me on the right like like a maniac but we line up again at the next light. This time I launch the car and I think u guys know what the outcome that time was... =)

I know an M3 isn't much of a kill, but I was beaten through the twisties by one so I needed to prove myself and my car to this cocky M3 driver. btw, he was a jerk, didn't even bother to look at me when we were done, I was going to give him a thumbs up for his effort...

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Larry, sorry to hear about your run-in with an SUV...I personally think all SUV owners should be shot! They act like they own the road. That's okay though, they will be put to a rest, just like the musclecars in the early 70s. It's already happening.

About your wheels...go to TireRack. They have great tire/wheel packages for nearly every car made. You would get a much better deal there. They might even have stock 3000GT wheels. I am ordering a new set of the stock "Sawblade" wheels for my 1994 Camaro.....They are 16x8 "Z28 size" and will run around $700 for all 4, I believe. I'll have to check on that later. I know it isn't much more. I'm not sure if that's included with tires. I doubt it though.

M3s: Now, M3s are great cars, and handle like they are on rails, and we can't take that away from them. But, lemme tell you all a little war-story. I was driving I-95 and this jerk in a light blue M3 comes swervin through traffic like he's a badass. Well, I caught a nice glimpse of this clown, and found an empty stretch of road, and jumped right up on him. I got my chance, punched the gas, and flung up along side of him in the right lane.....It was a straight highway. He didn't even bother looking over at me. I stared at him the entire time. He just kept looking ahead, trying to speed up, but he couldn't shake the mighty V8 next to him. He finally gets sick and tired of my badgering, and decided to put the pedal of that puny V6 to the floor....no good. The big V8 just left him in the dust. We ran from around 65-100 or so. By the time we hit 100, I looked back and saw him in the rearview about 2cars back. I slowed down to "pair up" with him again, and he dropped back. He was pretty heartbroken, I assume. He has reason to be. He just got beat by a big unsophisticated GM Camaro. But, if I had the cash, I would buy another unsophisticated GM Camaro!

Another M3 Story: I was on Rt.83 in PA a while back, and saw this ugly yellow M3. He was in the left lane going real slow, "pairing" up with people in the right lane that were going slow. When someone would go to pass, he would speed up so they couldn't. This went on for about 25miles or so. My dad was with me, and saw this jerk, and said,"**** this, Dan, go whip his ass." Of course, I stepped at the opportunity. I don't back down from a worthy competitor. I crawl up behind him, and notice his license plate..."BadBimr." Well, I finally get a chance to get next to him...another straight, smooth highway....I'm "sizing him up" and the first thing I notice is his over-size tires, and drilled rotors. I immediately thought that this car was "hooked." I was leary at first, but I figured "what the hell." I jump on the gas, and the V8 revs up, and the FLowmaster lets out this hilacious growl. He looks over immediately, when he notices MY license plate...."IDOMIN8." I think it intimidated him. He stopped messing around then...Then he decides that he finally wants a piece, to impress his 2 buddies with him....well, I just said to my Dad,"Dad, lean your head back, hold on, and enjoy the ride." Well, I left that S.O.B like he was standing still. When he pulled up next to me, he gave me the thumbs up. Then, I floored it again, and got in front of him and slowed down. The traffic on the right side of us was coming up pretty quick, as we were only going 50mph in the left lane. I "paired up" with the traffic in the right lane, and gave him a taste of his own medicine.


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Has anyone installed any of the following mods: - High Flow exhaust system (Borla) - Down pipe - High flow cat

Iy you have, can you let me know if there was any difference in performance ?

By the way, I just ordered new rims for my car. Apparrently we're limited if we have a 96 or above. The only 18" 's available are Fitapaldi Tubolare and OZ F1. I searched the net on both Tire rack and Discount Tire. I also spoke to about 10 different "wheel" experts. A rim with a larger offset is needed to clear those GIANT 4 piston calipers on the front !

Thanks for the tip on Tire Rack......they were very helpful and took the time to explain and answer all my questions.

Larry VR 4


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Good to hear that you got your wheel problems sorted out Larry....I know a few guys with Fbodies that have Borlas, and they are happy with them, but when it comes to high-flow cats, they don't help a great deal. I don't know how these items perform on a 3000GT though...I would assume that the Borla would be more effective on a turbo-car than on a n/a one. Considering the hp that the 3000GT makes, I would reccomend a 3inch exhaust.

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06 Mar 1999
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I have seen a few people talking about dumping the clutch on a standstill run, I was under the impression that dumping the clutch was bad for the VR4s, during my races agains the mustangs etc, i have always had the engine reved and clutch barely engaged to ease her out while punching the gas pedal when the light turned green, if someone has a better way for take off, please share....

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08 Mar 1999
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Nimesh, I wouldn't reccommend dumping the clutch on a VR4. A buddy of mine had one, and dumped the clutch, and totally wrecked his car. He blew ended up blowing his transfer case, and when they went to have it towed in, they had to grease the flatbed of the tow-truck because it would not disengage. The VR4s have awesome launches because of the AWD, and I wouldn't see the need to dump the clutch on it.


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09 Mar 1999
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Is it just me of does the base 3000GT have really bad handing in the snow. On the way home from work today I slid out of the road three times while going less than 10 miles per hour. There was ice on the road but my car seemed to be locking up its brakes and sliding all over the place. Now some of this could be because I have poor snow driving skills but not all of it. The other drivers on the road did not seem to have as much trouble as me keeping the car on the road and coming to a stop. I drove my girlfriend's Honda Civic in the same snow and it handles much better than my 3000GT. I was wondering if anyone else out there had the same expercience.

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10 Mar 1999
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I have a 1993 Mitsubishi GTO, the new shape 6 speed twin turbo AWD model. As far as I know, the GTO is just a different badge for the 3000GT (I'm from New Zealand, I've seen a 3000GT and it looks the same to me.). By the way, we use kilometres rather than miles here, so multiply by 0.6213881 to get miles (you don't have to be that accurate of course :))

Anyway, my GTO used to have a speed governer when you went faster than the speed on the clock, ie 180km/h (I'm not sure if the 3000GT has this too). Now, it easily did this in 4th, and with 2 gears remaining I thought that was a waste of 2 perfectly good gears, so I recently had installed a "speed cut defencer" which as you might imagine, overrides this pathetic limit. Since then I've had it up to around 250km/h , of course its hard to tell when the speedo runs out. Does anyone know the top speed of the AWD twin turbo 3000GT/GTO? My guess is around the 290km/h mark (180miles/hr) but I could well be wrong. Anyway I'll stop rambling, I do have a bit of a story. About a week ago I was coming home, I was following a BMW and he wasnt going that fast, so I was probably a little too close to him. Anyway we get to the motorway and all of a sudden he takes off, at a frantic pace. Not exactly the slow car I thought it was. ANyway so I dropped it back a gear or two and was gaining on him (quite slowly, but I didnt feel the need to floor it :) .. we're going up a hill , we get to the top and my speedo is reading well off the clock, he suddenly floors the brakes.. luckily I wasn't in the same lane. So anyway I pass him like he's standing still. I guess he hadnt expected me to keep up past 180 (there are a lot of cars around that havent had their speed governers disabled) and wanted to pretend like I only passed him because he braked, and its not like I was even really trying OK so I guess thats not much of a story but I thought I'd share it. If anyone could help with my question above, I'd appreciate it.

Oh also, in the US are there any areas where there's no speed limit? There certainly aren't here,the highest legal speed limit in the whole of New Zealand is 100km/hr (62miles/hr), if you exceed this by more than 50km/hr then its instant loss of license, heavy fine, maybe even time in jail. of course, I exceed it by far more than 50, regularly. One day I might get caught, but for now its great fun keeping 1 step ahead of the law.


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In the state of Montana in the US, there is no speed limit in spots, but it is up to the cop's judgement on what is and what isn't too fast. However, I've read numerous articles that there will be a speed limit soon....better get out there while you can! :)

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10 Mar 1999
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Regarding the question about the speed limit of the 3000GT/GTO/STEALTH.

I have a 95 Stealth Twin Turbo the speedo has upto 290km/h, but I think there's a speed limiter at 250km/h. The fastest I got the car on the Highway was 220km/h (138MPH) and that was for only a few seconds. When you're at that speed, you come up very quickly on slower traffic.

I don't know about the States, but up here in Canada the max. speed limit is 100Km/h(lul, that's the speed I drive on the main streets) on the highway. Sounds like we have the same rules you have in New Zealan. 50km/h over the limit loss of license and big fines.

Jammer '95 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT


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10 Mar 1999
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There have been a few top speed test that the US 3000GT VR4 was involved in. In a 92 issue of Road and Track, they redlined in 5th gear and got up to 160mph. They turned off the Active Aero system, just to be curious and the VR4 topped out at 162mph. Since that time there have been a couple more test with the VR4 and the Stealth. The Stealth Twin Turbo has been recorded between 153 and 155 miles per hour and the 3000GTVR4 has been recorded between 157 and 162 miles per hour.

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157 isn't a bad top speed for a stock car at all....considering the weight of the VR4s, it's even more impressive. I know all about slower traffic coming up quick at those speeds....I was going 135mph in my 94 Camaro and someone pulled out...lucky for me there were plenty other lanes to choose from. I pushed the envelope a little further, but the backend started to get a bit light. If you wanna go that fast in an Fbody, get a Firebird Formula. The tail produces downforce, unlike that of the Camaro.

One more thing....could you people transplate the "km/h" into mph? I have no clue what speed you are all traveling at LOL....and how much faster is 50km/h in mph?

Here they can take your license on the spot for exceeding 25mph the posted speed limit in an area.


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12 Mar 1999
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In the US, Chicago anyway, it's up to the trooper to decide if he or she will yank your license for exceeding the speed limit. In Chicago, on the expressways, if you're lucky which is about a 50/50 chance, the cops will take your license, give you a ticket and you'll have to go to court to pick it up. Going to traffic court here is a HUGE pain and a costly one too. You could end up paying, in addition to the ticket, about $3 to $5 dollars per mile over the speed limit ( I can't remember which one it is) plus on a daily basis, waiting to appear in court could take hours. I'll tell you this, if the Chicago police think your racing and endangering the safety of others on the road, they'll take you in. It's their judgement and their jurisdiction.


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I hear that about Chicago! The cops there are the biggest bunch of @$$holes you could possibly run into, other than the ones in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

RatedZ@aol.com


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13 Mar 1999
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How light could you make the 3000GT VR4 if you took out all the amenities, etc? How much power could you get from the engine without headwork or pistonswaps, etc? If anyone has driven another modern sports car, i.e. MR2, M3, RX7, Supra, NSX, etc., which is the best and why?


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15 Mar 1999
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Driving a '92 VR4 for about a year and a half now, I can't really feel the power from it anymore. Maybe it's because I'm used to it by now. But before I bought my VR4, I tested drove a twin turbo Supra and I think it was a little bit stronger than the VR4. I don't know why, but it just felt that way. Tell me if I'm worry, it could of just been the cars I drove. I was told by a friend that the Supra is stronger because it has an inline 6 instead of a V6 engine.

About top speed of a VR4....well, I personally only have gone up to 110 MPH (I know that's weak, hoping to go faster soon) but my brother have gone up to 140 MPH. We were racing a Thunderbird on I-5 north bound going to Seattle.


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To the person with the 1992 VR-4. If you can't feel the power anymore maybe your turbos need to be rebuilt. What year supra did you drive? The new ones (93+) have 320 hp, while your 92 VR-4 has 300. Maybe that is why you felt a difference. As for the top speed. Your VR-4 could make it up to 150+, I have a base 3k and I've had it up to 135, on the Florida Turnpike. I have only one question. Why where you racing a T-bird? Those cars are not in the same league as a VR-4.

Peter 3k


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During May 97, I test drove a Supra Turbo a few days after I test drove my VR4. It seemed to me that the Supra had a touch more pulling power after about 80mph or so. It appears that the Supra's engine breathes better a higher speeds than the VR4. That's fine because a K&N Filtercharger,Borla mufflers and a less restrictive downpipe took care of all that. But before I added the mods, the reasons I purchased the VR4 over the Supra is that the VR4 drives better around town, looks better (in my opinion) and has all-wheel drive which when used with all-season tires is great during the winter months in Chicago. Although, if the VR4 never existed, the Supra would be my next choice.

Marc's 97 VR4


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I test drove the 97 Supra Turbo and the VR4. It appeared to me that the Supra's engine after about 80mph or so was breathing better than the VR4's engine. The VR4's engine at speeds over 80mph does not seem to breathe as well and thus seems like its weaker in comparison to the Supra. The Supra has an advantage of lighter weight(about 200 pounds) and a less restrictive exhaust. But this advantage only comes into play after about 80mph. Before 80mph the VR4, despite giving up 200 pounds, is a touch quicker than the Supra because of it's all-wheel drive. I purchased the VR4 because it is a better car than the Supra when it comes to driving around town, it looks better (in my opinion) and the all-wheel drive for the Chicago winters. You MUST use all-season tires, though. I must say though that if the VR4 never existed, the Supra would be my next choice. It's a pretty good car as well.

Marc's 97 VR4


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16 Mar 1999
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I test drove the 97 Supra Turbo and the VR4. It appeared to me that the Supra's engine after about 80mph or so was breathing better than the VR4's engine. The VR4's engine at speeds over 80mph does not seem to breathe as well and thus seems like its weaker in comparison to the Supra. The Supra has an advantage of lighter weight(about 200 pounds) and a less restrictive exhaust. But this advantage only comes into play after about 80mph. Before 80mph the VR4, despite giving up 200 pounds, is a touch quicker than the Supra because of it's all-wheel drive. I purchased the VR4 because it is a better car than the Supra when it comes to driving around town, it looks better (in my opinion) and the all-wheel drive for the Chicago winters. You MUST use all-season tires, though. I must say though that if the VR4 never existed, the Supra would be my next choice. It's a pretty good car as well.

Marc's 97 VR4


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I test drove the 97 Supra Turbo and the VR4. It appeared to me that the Supra's engine after about 80mph or so was breathing better than the VR4's engine. The VR4's engine at speeds over 80mph does not seem to breathe as well and thus seems like its weaker in comparison to the Supra. The Supra has an advantage of lighter weight(about 200 pounds) and a less restrictive exhaust. But this advantage only comes into play after about 80mph. Before 80mph the VR4, despite giving up 200 pounds, is a touch quicker than the Supra because of it's all-wheel drive. I purchased the VR4 because it is a better car than the Supra when it comes to driving around town, it looks better (in my opinion) and the all-wheel drive for the Chicago winters. You MUST use all-season tires, though. I must say though that if the VR4 never existed, the Supra would be my next choice. It's a pretty good car as well.

Marc's 97 VR4


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16 Mar 1999
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Sorry about the multiple post guys. My PC went down after the first story and when I reposted a new story it picked up the previous ones.

Marc's 97 VR4


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16 Mar 1999
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To answer the question why I'd raced a T-bird....well, that was when I first got my VR4. I didn't know how my car would match up to other cars. I know that the T-bird is not in the same class as the VR4, but he keeping his car right next to mine no matter what speed I was going. My brother was driving so he decided to floor it. It was a short race because at about 120 mph we were really far ahead. We finally slowed down and let him catch up. He gave us a thumbs up and speed off. It wasn't worth chasing after him. I know the T-Bird doesn't mean anything. I haven't really race my car much. The best car I've race so far was a Boxster (in the rain). I haven't race any Cameros, F-Bodies, Mustangs, Supras, 300ZX's, etc.

About my turbo, I don't know if it's broken, I mean I could still go really fast, but the power doesn't seem to kick as fast or to make me feel satisfied. When I have people in the car with me, they say they could really feel it. My brothers doesn't think it's broken too or needs a fixin'.

The Supra I test drove was a '97 Supra. I think Mark's right about how well the engine breathes after 80 mph. If I had the money I would of bought the Supra over the VR4 just because we always had Supras in our family (4 at one time). The styling of both cars are good in it's separate ways, but the interior of the VR4 is way better than the Supra.


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20 Mar 1999
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I am new to this site so here goes my war story.

I have a black 94 3000GT VR-4 with Greedy exhaust and Greedy boost control kit. I also have a K&N Filter charger. I live in Nashville TN. I pulled up to this red light on a dark night about 1:00. I was just returning from a party at a friends house. I saw some lights creeping up beside me. I couldn't tell what it was. ( this is a 4 lane highway) A blue 89 GMC Jimmy rolled up in a way that just cammanded authority. I made the motion to run them. I stomped it and so did he. He jumped me on take off and just kept on going. he smoked me bad. He also had blue dome lights. It was the tightest thing I have ever seen. I just sold my VR-4 today and am on the way out the door to get a 89 GMC Jimmy 2dr, 2WD 4.3ltr V6 with blue dome lights, yellow fog lights, and 15X8 American Racing rims. I am now the happiest man in the world.


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21 Mar 1999
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To the last post, always remember it's not the car but the driver.


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ok, here's my story. One night I was driving in the city of Chicago. Chicago is known for its Friday thru Sunday drag racing after 10pm of course. So anyway, I had been racing a few camaros and a few firburds with their 350ci motors (that eat gas bigtime) and was having a good time with them. Then I say about my 4th race for the night, I came accross the $44k twin turbo..I said to myself ...self...why whould anyone in their right mind buy a V-6 twin turbo. Well I figured not everyone likes american cars and alot of people like to throw money out the window on V-6 cars. So I new this car has about 320hp with some turbo lag. So I said what the hell. My little Mustang Cobra with a mere 305 natrually aspired hp(no turbo, no super charger, just motor) was in for a good challenge. So the twin turbo gave me a rev with a poor sounding exhaust(chuckling to myself) I gave him the roar of a powerfull V-8 with a exhast note you can hear 1/2 mile away...hehe. So the light changed and off we went it, sure was a close race but my shifting skills seemed to out run the twin. As we finnished the race I gave him the thumbs up and said good race. I said to myself for as close of a race as that one why would someone spend that kind of money? I see myself spending the extra $18k and buy myself a supercharger for $3k giving my car close to 450hp and take the extra $15k and use it to buy me a nice car for everyday driving. Well thats my theory. Hope you enjoy your twin..when you visit my town look out for a Red 97 Cobra with Cobra R 17x9 wheels. Its one of a kind in my town. Maybe I'll have the supercharger on when you see me. Then you'll catch my drift. Before I go remember this, no hard feelings guys I like your car, but its a little costly for what you get. And the sound of the Cobra is Bad Ass!! You can e-mail me for comments or to setup a race..mikecamp@hotmail.com

Have fun guys and watch out for the Police..hahaha (Even thou their slow..they have the radio!!)


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I have a 99 mustang Cobra that is compleatly stock...just bought it 2 days ago so Ihave not had time to build it...but the night I got the mustang I seenand talked tothis guy that owned a VR-4 and he said he had a 94 black VR-4 with greedy exhaust and a greedy boost control and last he had a K and N filter charger kit....soI just desided to race him for the fun of it because I was stock I thought he would beat me...so we were going down a 4 lane and we just stopped in the middle of 840 interstate and the guy that was with me was the flagger to tell us when to go..he through his hand down and we both stomped it but he jumped me by a least a car length on the take off because I spun but as soon as I hit second I pulled ahead alittle bit and caudht third just to piss him off because I smoked him buy a car length i 1/4 mile....so I was laughing at him then a 89 GMC jimmy went by so I thought I would go beat him just to make it fun..I made him stop and my friend flagged us again the jimmy jumped me bad on the take off and continued to pull away from me and caught overdrive in front of me and white smoked his tires on his 15/8 American Racing rims...it was the badest thing I have ever seen..the next day I sold my cobra and went and baught me a 89 GMC Jimmy with polished aluminum American Racing Rims that had blue dome lights and yellow fog lights and it was blue to...and AVS back black outs,4.3L V6,2wd,2dr, It is the best thing in the world!!!!!!!!!!


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22 Mar 1999
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I can't belive what I am hear with all this talk of a GMC Jimmy. I recently purchased a 99 Corvette red, hard top, 6sp with a 347 ci motor in it. I live in a small town called Woodbury TN. I was heading to the neighboring town of Murfreesbro the other day when, what sounds like the excact same Jimmy rolled up beside me. it had 15X8 american racing rims, fog lights, blue dome lights, AVS on the back, but now it had GTO's on the front. He reaved( wha tI thought was) his puny 4.3Ltr V6 up at me. I decided to run him title-4-title. I would own this beatiful piece of history in a matter of seconds. we stopped right on the highway and went from a dead stop. I have traction control soI wasn't worried about spinning. He jumped me and justkept on going... smoked my @$$ bad. he stopped long enought to collect my tittle and let his friend have the keys to my car. They smoked off and just before they drove out of sight i promised I would get my self a 89 GMC Jimmy and smoked Ryan Duggin ( that is his name I later found out).


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22 Mar 1999
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How can you guys sleep at night knowing that Mitsubishi once built the airplanes that destroyed Pearl Harbor? You get on here and brag about whipping up on American muscle but evidently you have yet to run up on a mod. I dont think high 13's from a bone stock Camaro is too bad. Come race me anytime. I have a supercharged LS-1 Camaro that pulls off ET's in the low 12's. I've destroyed every sinlge import I've ever run across and after I install my nitrous I'd be happy to do the same at drag races. I'd love to tell my "war story" but I haven't had a close enough race yet.


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Who the hell is this 89 Jimmy person. Your story or stories make no sence and have bad facts. Ford isn't offering the 1999 Mustang Cobra until the summer of 1999. Get your facts right KID!


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22 Mar 1999
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Wow! You have an supercharged LS-1 that's running in the low 12's. Hey buddy, there are modified Talons and Eclipses' out there running mid to high 11's so what's your point? You say you've never lost a race. OK bigshot, instead of racing import minivans take your car to the track and race some cars with some power and a experienced driver. Low 12's, please. And as far as how are we getting sleep at night? Man, I'm snoring!

By the way, I'll leave my name so you'll know who to address unlike yourself, "Supercharged LS-1".

Von's 96 VR4


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22 Mar 1999
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To the person who asked about translating km/h (kilometres/hour) to mph (on 11 Mar), 1 mile = (almost) exactly 0.6213881 kilometres. So 25mph is about 40km/h. I posted that calculation earlier. As I said, I'm from New Zealand, we use kilometres here, the logical way :) much easier: the metric system 1 kilometre = 1000 metres 1 metre = 100 centimetres 1 centimetre = 10 millimetres etc, I don't know how you Americans can handle the imperial system :)

I still havent gotten around to pushing my car to its absolute top speed, but I'm sure that as standard it could do more than 162mph, as it is 6 speed.. and I've had it to about 150miles/hr anyway, in fifth and it was just cruising. Dunno about the tires though, I'm not too keen on the idea of having them separate if they're not rated to a nice high speed, seeing as my car is SUPPOSED to be limited to a mere ~115mph (done that in a residential area, pah :) I'm planning on selling it soon tho, as I worry about it too much. When you've got a car like that you just can't leave it parked anywhere... its a hassle. Also, the non-existant room in the back seats is a bit of a problem. It's a great car but... I think I'll have to downgrade to something a little more practical.


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23 Mar 1999
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I own a 1969 VW bug and it is the slowest piece of **** around, but I get all the women. That because I'm a good looking dude....hahahhaaahhaha sorry all you ugly guys with vr4s


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23 Mar 1999
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Daaaaa, ok Boss. Here it goes something like this. I was out about 12pm(CST). I was driving on the highway doing about 145mph for about a 1/2hr then I deceided to kick her up a little bit so I floored it!! And away we went, 180, 190, 200, 220, 240mph Topped out this bad ride...unreal!! I was smokin, my pinto never ran this good before? I think it must of been the new motor I installed? 540ci V8 with a paxton supercharger, wisco pistons, forged crank, etc....As I was driving 240mph I see about 3 state troopers fly bye, 7 corvettes, 27 camaros, 3 mustangs, 15 VR4s, 1 F40 and 3 old ladies in a station wagon!!! And you couldn't even get the facial expressions I went by so fast. Then the next thing that happens my front left tire blows out I go rippin off the highway Dukes of Hazzard style, go air born for about a football field in distance, land back on all four wheels do 22 360s come to a complete stop right in front of a 18 wheel semi doing 75mph he slams on his brakes, jack knives his truck goes into the ditch rolls over, explodes into flames then the driver gets out of the cab on fire, my friend thats with me jumps out pours his 7eleven big gulp on the driver puts him out!! Then we change our flat tire and get the hell out of there. The next day its on the news that a unidentified flying object lands in front of semi causing accident and aliens put forgin substance on driver to stop him from burning to death...Boy what a night of high speed driving. I will withhold my name from this posting for security reasons. The FBI had the area locked down for months...We have them fooled, huh...(by the way, we only suffered from cotton mouth after this whole event)


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Im Commmenting on the the person who said "How can you sleep at night KNowing that Mitsusbishi Built the Little fighter PLanes that shot down American Planes" How dare someone go that low against a car i assumne he doesnt like MY car is and Eclipse GSX 97 (20g Turbo UPgrade POrted-Clipped) or dad's car a 95 VR-4 (BOne Stock) and IM VERY PROUD ITS A MITSUBSIHI car. HOw bout this how can that guy sleep at night knowing that The Americans Cruelly put American citiZens that were Japanese into Interniment Camps or HOW bout the years Of Racism against AfricaN AmericaNs? What im trying to say is Leave the Discussion about the Cars and not the Country who makes them..


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Give it a rest will ya! Ok, there are some stories that are hard to believe but you guys with the sarcastic GMC stories, etc. need to quit. I bet the other car web pages are no different than this one. Why don't you go check them out? Oh, that's right, they told you to beat it too.


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I dont car about all of your stupid litte twin turbo charged cars...buy a Mustang Cobra or a Camaro SS that is pure motor and no stupid fake horse power......all 3000 GT's look good but i would not buy one because I am a muscle car guy not fake horse power guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE VR-4's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)


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24 Mar 1999
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Yeah they told us to beat it that is real good....why dont you mind your own business everybody has their own opions..and I dont give a ****K about yours!!!!!!!! BI@TCH


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24 Mar 1999
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You only think its fake horsepower because you are not knowledgeable enough about internal combustion and how it all works. It is called engineering. Large displacement inefficient motors are dinasaurs but have their place. Most exotic sports cars use relatively small displacement motors, so who really cares about your low tech, overplayed, "torque monsters" In fact, you should be ashamed that your so-called muscle car makes no more horsepower and just about 20 lb-ft of torque more (LS1). I think you had to add "fake" horsepower (supercharger) too to just break into the 12s. Quess what? Not that hard to do with our cars and with two less cylinders and 1/2 the displacement. So I guess when I kick your pony cars a$$ everytime, anywhere you'll proclaim my VR4 a figment of your imagination. Oh, did I forget? I will beat you on any road course in any weather as well!--I love the USA but when we dropped the bomb on em, I think you can call it even and I think we should try to forget about that low point in our history.


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24 Mar 1999
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For the guy with the profanity, when you learn how to spell OPINION, then you can have one. Oh, almost forgot, the Beavis and Butthead web site said that you can still come back but you must learn how to spell your name. I just helped you out, BUTTHEAD. Get some class and a 3000gt and learn how to spell your name and you might not get kicked outta here.


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24 Mar 1999
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If you hate VR4's, then why are you in a VR4 web site? Nobody cares that you hate VR4's. You probably hate them because you've been beaten by one. Get over it, don't be a moron about it. Believe me, you'll lose again so be a man and go back to moron.com where you belong.

A proud VR4 owner


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24 Mar 1999
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If you hate VR4's, which nobody really cares, why are you in the 3000gt web site? It looks like you were beaten by one and your little ego got crushed along with your Mustang. Pull the dual mufflers out your a$$ and get over it.


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24 Mar 1999
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For all the 3000GT owners, ignore all the misfits that are leaving comments here. They lost their way home from the MORON.COM web site. Except for a couple of stories here and there, there is some educated discussions going on between educated people. I visited web sites from other manufacturers, Chevy, Ford, etc. and those sites don't seem to suffer much from negative comments as this site does. Negative criticism is one thing but bashing is another. So, if these guys have to beat down the 3000GT just to raise themselves up then I feel sorry for them.


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26 Mar 1999
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Okay, I haven't been reading these posts for quite a while, but after seeing this rediculous crap about the 1989 Jimmy, I have come to the conclusion that this guy also wrote the post saying,"I have a Corvette and I've seen this Jimmy around. He blew me away, blah blah blah."

I've also noticed that we have another loud mouth Camaro owner in here, that probably doesn't even own a Camaro. I own a Camaro, and I am very embarassed to say that this fella drives, or at least CLAIMS to drive a Camaro. This guy is what gives Fbody owners a bad name. I hope he brings his ass out to the track and gets smoked by a turbocharged Geo Metro.

RatedZ@aol.com


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26 Mar 1999
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I know this isn't a war story but I just wanted to give the creators of this web site much respect. I've been at 300zx.com, supraturbo.com and camaro.com and no disrespect to those web sites but this web site kicks a$$ when compared to the others. This site covers every inch of the 3000GT to incredible detail plus the knowledge of some of you guys when it comes to this car is outstanding. I bought a 96 VR4 in May of 1998 and I had no idea what could be done to this car until I discovered this site. Again, much respect to 3000GT.com.

Tony J.


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26 Mar 1999
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i picked up a cherry 1997 3000 gt back in december. after one week of having the car i had always wanted, i went to an airport on a nice curvy road just to stretch her legs a little. i still had not opened her up yet so down to the floor she went. she handled like a dream and i was loving it until i cut a sharp corner at about 90+ mph. another car came around the corner so i swerved hard to miss the car and instinctively hit my brakes. bad mistake. the car then spun out of control and hit an embankment causing the car to flip three times in th air. amazingly i escaped with nothing more than a bruised kidney and dislocated collar bone, but my car sustained 16,000 + dollars worth of damage and she'll never cut a corner again.


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27 Mar 1999
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Not to add insult to injury on the last post but to turn a sharp corner at 90 mph is a bit to much for any car. You have got to know what your car's abilities are otherwise you could end up killing yourself as well as someone else. It's good to here that you didn't suffer terrible injuries. Remember, drive to live another day.


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Ok, there I was, cruising on "KNOW YOUR ROLE" blvd at about 10 at night. I stop at a red light, and right next to me is a new 99 Mustang GT, with his resonator removed or something cuz the thing was pretty loud. Anyways, he tries to intimidate me by revving, so I intimidate back by yawning (hey, I was tired, it was finals week so I had no sleep!) But just so he knew that I wanted to play, I revved back. Light turns green and I think u guys who have witnessed a 5500 rpm clutch dump AWD launch (I have an RPS Turbo Clutch) knows that I left that Mustang with a 2-3 car advantage before I even hit 30mph. I took 2nd gear up to 80 and by that time, poor yuppy stang driver had given up and made a right onto "Jabronie" drive. Damn, I was just about to slow down and show him my license plate holder that says "I'd rather push a Stealth than drive a Mustang!" There's a little story behind that cuz I used to have a Mustang but that's for another day.


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28 Mar 1999
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Gee, whadda ya know, another butthead...Apparently, this one is a big WWF fan.....just to let you know, candyass, The Rock lost the belt tonight. Take that down Know-Your-Roll Avenue, up Jabroni Drive, check in to the Smack-Down Hotel, rent room 316, get some sleep, and maybe you'll wake up tomorrow not acting like such a roody-poo.

RatedZ@3:16


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29 Mar 1999
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Just out of curiousity RatedZ@aol.com, were u born premature? I know, dropped too many times as an infant? Maybe your just sore that you can't get any...


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29 Mar 1999
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Well, well, well....looks like Mr.Man can run his mouth, but can't post who he is....typical of some loudmouth moron talking crap. I'd bet he's the same one telling the last story we've all heard.


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29 Mar 1999
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What's the point of posting stories if they are always ridiculed by other people? Pointless...


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30 Mar 1999
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Well folks, I got caught up in race a couple of nights ago. Normally, I don't pay attention to someone trying to get me to race but this guy struck a nerve. I'm going north on I-90/94 in Chicago, I'm driving the speed limit, just cruising. I take a peek in my side view mirror and I see a car in the lane next to me about 8 to 10 car lengths behind me and closing fast. He's moving, I was doing about 60 mph, this guy had to be doing at least 80 mph. I'm thinking he's going to pass me, no problem. All of a sudden, he pulls up behind me and starts riding my tail and I do mean close. I ignore him for about half a mile or so then he hits his bright lights. He still rides my tail for about another mile, then he pulls into the passing lane on my left but still behind me. He pulls ahead of me and cuts me off while getting in my lane. The car is a Lexus GS400. He slows down considerably to about 45 mph, then he punches it. By this time, I pissed, so I take off after him. This GS400 is moving, no one gains an inch up to about 70 mph, then I put my VR4 in 4th and passed him but didn't blow by him. By the time I got in his lane in front of him, (about a car length) I was doing just shy of 110mph! I started to break the speed down quickly because we were approaching the highway split and the lanes go from 4 to 3 and traffic starts to get heavy. He never caught up to me because of the traffic but I must say that if you happen to run into a GS400, do not take it lightly. If the driver is game, the car definitely is! Much respect to that V-8.

Marc's 97 VR4


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30 Mar 1999
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Marc, that guy in the Lexus sounds like he was a real idiot. I'm glad you beat him. I, on the other hand, would have tapped my brakes hard enough for my lights to come on, and watch it scare the crap out of him. What a jerk.

RatedZ@aol.com


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30 Mar 1999
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Unbelievable! That guy in the last post was pretty upset. Before I purchased a 97 VR4, I had a 93 3000GT SL and before that a 91 Dodge Shadow and before that an 89 Mercury Tracer. See a pattern? As far as being superior to someone else because I have a VR4, that's stupid. Maybe in your world what car you drive makes you superior but in my world it's nothing but driving what I want and what I can afford. As far as your 160-170 horsepower Probe outrunning a 320 horsepower car, get off the drugs.

Marc's 97 VR4


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31 Mar 1999
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I couldn't agree more, Marc. As for VR4 owners thinking they are superior? Sure, there are a share of them, but aren't the share of people that own different cars that act like that too? Sure there are. I've met fellow Camaro drivers that think they are superior just because they have a Flowmaster Exhaust and a 52mm Throttlebody. Whoo-hooo! They are just so much better than everyone else. They get suprised when I challenge them to a race....they sit there and laugh. But, after the race, I just turn and say to them,"aint laughin now are ya?!"

I can tell you this, there's nothing that feels as good as going out and whipping someone's ass that thinks they are so superior.

This guy with the Probe....he seems to have a "probe" somewhere other than the driveway.


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31 Mar 1999
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The 3000GT is a sophisticated, luxury and handsome car in itself. The VR4 is even more but that's the way Mitsubishi intended it to be. Do I feel good about driving this car, you damn right I do but in no way shape or form do I feel that I'm better than anyone else. The guy in the Lexus that harrased me three days ago, why do you think he did. He harrased me because I was in a fancy sportscar, it had nothing to do me and that happens quite a bit in this car. So, if you dislike something or someone, dislike Mitsubishi. Nobody's disliking you because you drive a Probe. Who cares.


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31 Mar 1999
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GOD DAMMIT I never said that my car would beat a GOD DAMN VR-4...I said that i would race one....stupid A$$ read what I fuccckkking say you retarded bastard...I bet you dont even have a VR-4...BITCCCHHHH


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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I HATE GOD DAMN VR-4's!!!!!!!!!


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31 Mar 1999
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To the guy with the Probe who "HATES GOD DAMN VR-4s". You hate this car a lot that is perfectly clear, and judging by the numerous posts you feel as if the VR-4 is the source of pure EVIL. Dude, why are you on this site if your hate for our cars is so strong. You don't see us on your site bad mouthing your cars. Does a Probe site even exist? I don't even know. This site is intended for people who own 3000 GT's and for people who appreciate cars no matter if they are 3000 GT's, Supra's, RX-7's, etc........ I can't do anything to change your opinion, but act like a respectable person and not an IDIOT!!!!!

VR-4 EVER

Peter 3000 GT


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Why would you even bother racing a car you know you can't beat, "STUPID A$$". And it's obvious that the only words you know (F!!!, B!!!!! and stupid) describe YOU perfectly. In fact, you're probably not even old enough to drive. Now beat it, I hear your momma calling you.


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31 Mar 1999
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I understand now. To the guy who hates VR4's, bend over so that I can yank the VR4 out your a$$.


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31 Mar 1999
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Hey, Probe boy. How old are you kid, 10, 11 maybe 13. Isn't it past your bed time little boy.

What's you problem kid, everybody thinks their car is the best. There are people out there who think their "suped up" Ford Probes with the 5" exhaust pipe, tinted windows, 16" rims, and lowered car is the ****. I don't make fun of those people!

To tell you the truth, I think your jealous, deep down inside you like the VR-4/Stealth but can't get one. Maybe when you get older.

OH, btw, I think the spice girls are on MTV tonight you might want to catch it.

Jammer '95 Stealth RT/TT


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It's only one way to deal with stupid folks such as the "HATE VR4's" guy, ignore him. It's obvious that he needs attention and he's getting some of that attention by voicing his opinion that nobody cares about. This is a 3000GT web site and granted we can't stop folks from coming here and voicing their opinion but to be vulgar and offensive about is just plain STUPID. Are cars aren't perfect and I think everyone here agrees with that but we love are cars and we're interested in making them better. So for all of you 3000GT owners out there, forget this guy and others like him and let's share some information and stories on our cars. I'm sure this guy will leave at some point.

Marc's 97 VR4


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01 Apr 1999
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I can say what ever the fuuuucccckkkk I want to and you cant do shiiiitttt about it..........


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01 Apr 1999
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I can say what ever the fuuuucccckkkk I want to and you cant do shiiiitttt about it..........


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01 Apr 1999
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I can say what ever the fuuuucccckkkk I want to and you cant do shiiiitttt about it..........


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01 Apr 1999
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I can say what ever the fuuuucccckkkk I want to and you cant do shiiiitttt about it..........


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01 Apr 1999
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I can say what ever the fuuuucccckkkk I want to and you cant do shiiiitttt about it..........


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01 Apr 1999
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I can say what ever the fuuuucccckkkk I want to and you cant do shiiiitttt about it..........


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01 Apr 1999
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I can say what ever the fuuuucccckkkk I want to and you cant do shiiiitttt about it..........


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01 Apr 1999
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to mr. probe boy, please get a life and a real car. Hawaiianisland77@hotmail.com GTO


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to mr. probe boy, please get a life and a real car. Hawaiianisland77@hotmail.com GTO


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to mr. probe boy, please get a life and a real car. Hawaiianisland77@hotmail.com GTO


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01 Apr 1999
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Great post Marc! You hit the nail on the head! I'm just glad this guy doesn't drive a Camaro! It would be another idiot to make us Camaro drivers look bad!

I'm so sick of these idiots, it's unbelievable. I'm not in here bragging about how I took down the last VR4 I raced, or the fact that I've never been beaten by one. There is more to a car than just pure speed. So what if a Camaro is faster than a VR4 or vice-versa? You can only go 70mph anyway (legally)!

We all love our cars, and that's what is great about this site. We can actually talk about cars. I've been to the Camaro sites and it is rediculous. There are so many pompous asses in there that it's crazy! Everything is a "challenge." It's all about who can get a "one-up" on the next person. In here, it seems all cars are respected. I find this an enjoyable site to take part in. Don't let these jerkoffs ruin it. Just ignore them and they will go away.

RatedZ@aol.com


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A friend of a friend has the 98 Camaro SS (I think it's a 98) and I had never been in one before but I can see why a it's called a muscle car. The car pulls like a freight train once it's able to get some traction and it feels different than the VR4. From an acceleration standpoint, the Camaro is just raw power with a touch of finesse while the VR4 has more finesse with power. I think that's great that you have two cars that are equal in power but they feel totally different. I've never considered the VR4 to be a sports car because it doesn't act like one. Even though the sports cars of the 90's are more refined than years past, most of them are still rough around the edges. The VR4 has luxury written all over it but is surrounded with a sports car body. And it does just about everything in a sophisticated kind of way. I've never challenged him to a race and I'm pretty sure I won't because I prefer cruising in my car rather than racing it. Make no mistake, that Camaro SS is no joke.

Marc's 97 VR4


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02 Apr 1999
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Hm...your last post RatedZ@aol.com is kinda funny, considering u had quite a time poking fun of my "Jabronie" drive post. All I was doing was making a somewhat serious event seem comical. Is there something wrong with that? If u don't think my modded Stealth could beat a new Stang GT, well then you don't know **** about our cars. Sorry, but u do seem a little on the arrogant side...

-Jabronie Man who I guess to you anyways doesn't know his role.


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I think I know what drove Mr. Probe over the edge...he must have seen the spoiler on the 99 VR4 ! What the heck is with Mitsu anyway ?? Did someone accidently land a vintage bi-plane on the rear while they were in the design process, and someone thought it looked good ?? I'm glad I bought mine the end of 98 !

Seriously, is it just me, or does anyone else think it looks......gee, I can't even describe it.....a little help here guys/gals...

I saw a Camero "SS" the other day.....Black on Black, tinted windows (dark enough to be classy), and what looked like chrome 5 spoke 18" wheels. This car looked fantastic ! The sound from his exhaust made my VR4 sound like a sewing machine !

Just as a side note.....would you believe I got pulled over today for doing 58 mph in a 55 mph zone?? It was one of those speed traps where 5 troopers are parked around a bend about 1/4 mile passed an unmarked vehicle with a radar gun. One trooper wanted to site me, but an older more "rational" one made it clear that I hadn't done anything wrong ! The one that was willing to write the ticket was the driver of a special "pursuit" vehicle.....Camero with LS1 motor. Dark blue with a big yellow stripe/ strobes on the roof, etc. Imagine driving a hot car and being able to break the speed limit AND act cocky LEGALLY ?? My radar detector didn't chirp at all (12 year old "Solo") Tomorrow I place an order for a Valentine One.

Larry VR4


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I think I know what drove Mr. Probe over the edge...he must have seen the spoiler on the 99 VR4 ! What the heck is with Mitsu anyway ?? Did someone accidently land a vintage bi-plane on the rear while they were in the design process, and someone thought it looked good ?? I'm glad I bought mine the end of 98 !

Seriously, is it just me, or does anyone else think it looks......gee, I can't even describe it.....a little help here guys/gals...

I saw a Camero "SS" the other day.....Black on Black, tinted windows (dark enough to be classy), and what looked like chrome 5 spoke 18" wheels. This car looked fantastic ! The sound from his exhaust made my VR4 sound like a sewing machine !

Just as a side note.....would you believe I got pulled over today for doing 58 mph in a 55 mph zone?? It was one of those speed traps where 5 troopers are parked around a bend about 1/4 mile passed an unmarked vehicle with a radar gun. One trooper wanted to site me, but an older more "rational" one made it clear that I hadn't done anything wrong ! The one that was willing to write the ticket was the driver of a special "pursuit" vehicle.....Camero with LS1 motor. Dark blue with a big yellow stripe/ strobes on the roof, etc. Imagine driving a hot car and being able to break the speed limit AND act cocky LEGALLY ?? My radar detector didn't chirp at all (12 year old "Solo") Tomorrow I place an order for a Valentine One.

Larry VR4


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Hey Larry,

I guess the spoiler is like the rest of the car, RADICAL. It's keep the car looking fresh I guess. I'm hoping Mitsubishi comes out with an all new 3000GT for 2000. This car, despite sharing it's platform with the old Galant, performs very well and deserves to be all new. It sells well and it's survived the sport car endangered list and personally I think there's a touch more room for improvement. But for now, it's still one helluva car.

Marc's 97 VR4


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02 Apr 1999
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I've heard rumors that the 3000gt is gone for 2000. I've also heard that Mits is doing away with Turbocharged cars in the US as well. I like the new 3000gt, well, except for the Camaro-ish headlights...they look a little funny. It's dying for a front mount intercooler though! Like the one on the Lancer Evo 5.

-Jabronie Man


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HORROR STORY !!!! W A R N I N G !!!!

This morning I decided to change the oil in my VR, like I've done on every car I've owned since 68. Anyway, I proceded to put my floor jack under the sub frame.....jacked it up, positioned the jack stands, etc. Unscrewed the drain plug, drained the oil, and unscrewed the filter.....put the plug back on, put a new filter back on.....filled up with Mobil 1 and a quart of Slick 50 synthetic (does that stuff really work ??) Anyway, all was well until I started the engine !!

I backed out of the garage, and see an ocean of oil all over the floor !!! And a brightly lit oil light !!

It seems that when I put the new filter on, I must've not had it centered correctly, and went on to tighten it. Somehow, I managed to cross thread the filter housing. I went back on the stands again, and took the filter off HOPING that it was just a matter of not tight enough, or a split filter gasket. No such luck !! The housing was cross threaded and has to be replaced. A $43 part and about $350 Labor !!!

Luckily there is a Mitsu dealer close by that's open on a Saturday. I had to have my car flat bedded, and then explain to the service mgr. my stupidity....or so I thought. What he told me is that it's a commom problem. Apparently the housing's are aluminum, and the filters are generally steel......one twist with minor force (I do mean minor, I'm no Arnold S.), and you can bend the housing threads if you don't start it properly.

Now I'm off the road till Wednesday.

This is just a warning to you folks to BE CAREFUL when or if you do your own oil changes ! If the filter doesn't screw on with minimal, and I do mean MINIMAL force/effort, back it off and try again GENTLY !!

Yeesh.....a month ago I had to replace my rims due to a skid on the snow, and today it's another self inflicted "injury".

Only 7,000 miles, what's next ??

Larry VR4


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HORROR STORY !!!! W A R N I N G !!!!

This morning I decided to change the oil in my VR, like I've done on every car I've owned since 68. Anyway, I proceded to put my floor jack under the sub frame.....jacked it up, positioned the jack stands, etc. Unscrewed the drain plug, drained the oil, and unscrewed the filter.....put the plug back on, put a new filter back on.....filled up with Mobil 1 and a quart of Slick 50 synthetic (does that stuff really work ??) Anyway, all was well until I started the engine !!

I backed out of the garage, and see an ocean of oil all over the floor !!! And a brightly lit oil light !!

It seems that when I put the new filter on, I must've not had it centered correctly, and went on to tighten it. Somehow, I managed to cross thread the filter housing. I went back on the stands again, and took the filter off HOPING that it was just a matter of not tight enough, or a split filter gasket. No such luck !! The housing was cross threaded and has to be replaced. A $43 part and about $350 Labor !!!

Luckily there is a Mitsu dealer close by that's open on a Saturday. I had to have my car flat bedded, and then explain to the service mgr. my stupidity....or so I thought. What he told me is that it's a commom problem. Apparently the housing's are aluminum, and the filters are generally steel......one twist with minor force (I do mean minor, I'm no Arnold S.), and you can bend the housing threads if you don't start it properly.

Now I'm off the road till Wednesday.

This is just a warning to you folks to BE CAREFUL when or if you do your own oil changes ! If the filter doesn't screw on with minimal, and I do mean MINIMAL force/effort, back it off and try again GENTLY !!

Yeesh.....a month ago I had to replace my rims due to a skid on the snow, and today it's another self inflicted "injury".

Only 7,000 miles, what's next ??

Larry VR4


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I can't believe one of you stupid-ass bitches actually ****ed up your VR4 just by changing the oil... the Jiffy Lube does mine for me with remanufactured Superflo Texaco oil... only the best. **** all ya'll...and I'm older than 12.


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Yeah, 12 and a half, which also happens to be your IQ.


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I'm guessing this guy has never seen the underside of a VR-4...or the engine bay...

Grow up...


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With regard to the comments to my "warning". I have seen the underside of an engine bay, and consider myself a fair mechanic (at least on older cars that were much less sophisticated). The purpose of my message was to inform you folks of the aluminum housing threads versus the steel filter ones, so that no one else makes the same error.

Thank you for your sympathy and kind words of support.

As for Mr. "Over 12", next time you go to Jiffy Lube for your recycled oil, may I suggest where they place the oil refill hose........


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First, off, I'd like to reply to "Jabroni-Man's" post, as he likes to refer to himself.....

look, Jabroni@aol.com or wherever you are, I'm sorry that you think I'm arrogant. I am sure I'm going to miss some sleep, BUT do you expect us to believe that you drive a car like a Stealth RT(????) when you talk like that? C'mon now. And who couldn't beat a Mustang? What year Mustang was it? What did it have done to it? What does your "Know-Your-Roll" Special have done to it? Did ya take him to Roody-Poo Way and beat him real bad? And since when do "yuppies" drive Mustangs?


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Larry, I've got a 1994 Camaro B4C (police package). It figures it would be some arrogant young cop trying to ticket for 3mph over....Probably his first day on the job.

About Mitsi getting rid of the 3000GT for 2000...i thought I saw it in the latest issue of AutoWeek, but I could be mistaken. however, they did have a nice article on the new Eclipse. There will be no turbo, but a 6er instead.

as for the spoiler on the back of the VR4, i saw it in a magazine and i was appauled, to say the least. It looks really horrible. Why would someone want a 40K car with a boy-racer spoiler like that on it? it looks like a towelrack. if it was dropped out of a plane, would it fly? that tail may be all great for a teenager, but a mature crowd that buys the VR4s will most likely not "buy" that look.

By the way, my website is: "www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Factory/8974/index.php" for those who would like to check it out. it is on Latemodel American Musclecars, but i will be expanding to cover some foreign cars as well. i'm not sure a date yet, but please send some pics, a list of mods, and timeslips if you can. make sure they are "jpg" files, and NO ZIP FILES. Thanks

RatedZ@aol.com


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Hey Larry.....I could believe that you got pulled over for exceeding three miles more than the speed limit. By brother drives a big 1997 LandCruiser and he got pulled over for slowing down before he made a right turn on a green light. The speed limit was 35 mph and the cop claimed that he stopped before he made the right turn. What kind of crock is that? Isn't it safer that way? Plus this happened at about 12:00 am midnight. My brother didn't get a ticket though. I thought that was pretty funny!!! Hehehehe.


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Okay, I just bought a '93 TT Stealth (Jet Black). No mods as of yet. On my second day out, I was cruising along a 2-lane highway (2 lanes each way) in the right most lane. I leisurly pulled around a new Mercedes CLK (275hp, 295 ft-lbs torque). It was an 80 (km/h) zone and he was doing about 60 (too slow!). A few seconds after I passed this guy, he comes zooming by and pulls in front of me, braking hard. All of a sudden, he's got attitude. I don't know if he realizes exactly what I'm driving, but his car is no slouch (though he paid about 50K US for it!) and he wants to 'show' me he's got balls. We pull up to a red light. He's looking over and smiling, as he rev's his car. I'm not too concerned, other than the fact that I haven't driven stick in a long (!!) time.

I bring 'er up to around 2500RPM, the light changes, I drop it and...

No contest... Well, he did try, but I nailed him off the line, and just kept increasing the space between us until I had clearly proved my point.

I let him catch up, looked over and smiled. All I received in return was an embarassed sideways glance as he turned down a sidestreet.

I can't wait until I start tweaking this puppy!

Scott


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HI ALL, has anyone taken out their "resonator bottles?" if so, could you please tell me what it does for the car or if it made any difference on performance. thanks, E Hawaiianisland77@hotmail.com


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I'd just like to comment on the Mercedes driver, and other drivers in general. Why is it that when these people want to race, they cut in front of you, then slam on their brakes? I don't know about you people, but it doesn't make me want to pull up to the stoplight and blow them away. It makes me want to get out of my car, kick their headlights in, and then yank them out of the car and beat the hell out of them.

When I go to race someone, I'm not going to cut them off like that. I pull up next to them and stay side-by-side with them. If they step on the gas and move ahead slightly, I do the same to "pair up" again. When the light turns red, they know what I want.

RatedZ@aol.com


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In my situation with the guy in the Lexus, when he was on my tail I ignored him which probably was not the reaction he was trying to elicit. I guess that pissed him off, so he decided to get in front of me by cutting me off. When he slowed down while in front of me, that pissed me off which was probably what he wanted to do. He just wanted me to chase him and I fell for it but I had the last laugh.

Marc's 97 VR4


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Hey Rated Z, I agree with you. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not an advocate of "road rage", but there are times when I want to get out of my car and beat some sense into these morons. Unfortunately they're actions usually wind up hurting some poor innocents. Not to stereotype, but I find SUV drivers the most discourteous of all ! No blinkers, weaving in and out of traffic, etc.

Hey, maybe we can get that loudmouth 12 year old to frequent some SUV site instead of annoying us.

By the way, I got my car back with a brand new oil filter housing !! I got to talking to the senior technician (as Mitsu calls their top mechanics) and he told me:

Mitsubishi oil filters are specially manufactured with a wider opening so the threads by-pass the first 2 or 3 threads on the housing assembly. The design is such that cross threading is avoided via the filter grabbing further up along the housing post.

Larry VR4


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Hey guys, I feel the same way too about wanting to beat the living day lights out of someone who cuts infront of you and slams on their brakes just because they want to race you. One time, some high school punk kids in a Ford Taruas, were trying to get me to race them. They followed me for about four miles, zooming by me, cutting me off, and braking infront of me for no reason. I finally got pissed off and played their little game with them. The street cleared out and we were at a stop light. When the light turned green, I sped off leaving them behind. I slowed down to make them think that they were catching up and as they got really close I would sped off again. I played with them for about three or four miles and then I went my own way. It felt so good reversing the roles.

Anyway, speaking about "road rage." Apparently something happened in the parking lot at my school today. I guess they were fighting for a parking spot or something, but one of the student got out of his car and stab the other student with a knife. How crazy is that?! The student who got stab didn't realize that he was stabbed until he got to the front steps of his classroom. The funny thing this is that he fell down infront of his classroom and that class was "Funeral Services."

Sorry, that was kind of off the 3KGT topic, but I though I would share since it started because of a road rage.

JT Ruff


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Hey guys, I feel the same way too about wanting to beat the living day lights out of someone who cuts infront of you and slams on their brakes just because they want to race you. One time, some high school punk kids in a Ford Taruas, were trying to get me to race them. They followed me for about four miles, zooming by me, cutting me off, and braking infront of me for no reason. I finally got pissed off and played their little game with them. The street cleared out and we were at a stop light. When the light turned green, I sped off leaving them behind. I slowed down to make them think that they were catching up and as they got really close I would sped off again. I played with them for about three or four miles and then I went my own way. It felt so good reversing the roles.

Anyway, speaking about "road rage." Apparently something happened in the parking lot at my school today. I guess they were fighting for a parking spot or something, but one of the student got out of his car and stab the other student with a knife. How crazy is that?! The student who got stab didn't realize that he was stabbed until he got to the front steps of his classroom. The funny thing this is that he fell down infront of his classroom and that class was "Funeral Services."

Sorry, that was kind of off the 3KGT topic, but I though I would share since it started because of a road rage.

JT Ruff


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Larry, I couldn't agree with you more. Not to be stereotypical but SUV drivers (women mostly) are the biggest morons on the road. They constantly swerve in and out of traffic, can't keep them in their own lane, talk on the phone not paying attention, etc. They are about impatient too....always riding up your rear bumper. When they do that, they think "I'm bigger, you'll move." NOT! Not in my case. I go slower. They wanna ride close, go right ahead. I just tap the brakes and watch them skid all over the road trying to keep that land barge from flipping over. If they hit me, guess what...I'm taking them to the cleaners. I'm not an advocate of road rage either, but if they wanna ride up my bumper, they can pay the consequences if they hit me. They even do it when somebody is in front of you going slow...HELLO! WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO?! They figure they'll ride everyone's bumpers until they're first in line.

When I'm in my Camaro it pisses them off when I am going slow, because they KNOW it will go faster...the sound could have something to do with that. So, they ride up my bumper and ride up my bumper, even though I'm going faster than the rest of the traffic. Do you think I get over? Hell no. It's time we take care of these SUV drivers once and for all.


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I have a war story that almost turned into a war: I was cruising the strip as usual on any boring night, and as i am cruising along this 5.0 pulls up beside me and tells me to bring my "mommas car" home. So I, being the mature teen I am, just go on with my business. A little later in the night, when I decided to go home, I see these same @ssholes on the interstate so I instinctively start laughing at this, hey they innsulted me so I had to get back. Anyway they catches up to me and one of them tells me to roll down my window, so I do. He then says "lets see if your fists have as much power as your car" and starts driving a little sporadic. So I take advantage of this cars supreme handling and breaking and slow down quite a bit so that I end up behind them. Then I follow till I get close to an exit and just simpily pull off and watch them just get angrier. Where as I have never had a problem with and fellow stealth/3000gt drivers or even the Honda Civic's and other 4 cylinders. Out of all the races, mustang drivers have always been the rudest/crudest, but then again there have been some decent ones. So all I am trying to say is, you have to watch who you race because there are some very angry losers out there that will hurt you or your car if not both!


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That last run-in with the Lexus got me thinking, I tried to ignore this jacka$$ and he did some pretty dangerous driving around me and in front of me just to get me to race him and I chased him like a not to smart person. That was the first time someone had went out their way just to get me to race them. He showed a blatant disregard for me as well as the other drivers' around me and it just made me very angry. If you can't ignore these fools behind the wheel without them getting angry because you're ignoring them, then what do you do?

Marc's 97 VR4


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Marc, if you can't ignore the fools, roll up behind them, tap their bumper on the left side if you are in the right lane, right side if you are in the left lane...send them right into the barrier where they belong. Well, sounds like a good idea anyway! Haha!

I've noticed Mustang drivers to be quite rude as well. No matter how loud or what they've got done to their cars, they always have the same thing to say..."It's all stock." When they lose, it's even funnier...."Run again, I missed a gear."

I don't streetrace too often, because it's dangerous. It's dangerous for you, the opponent, and also other innocent drivers on the road. However, on a long straight stretch of deserted road, sit back and hold on...we're goin for a ride.


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Hey...this is the 12 year old again. I thought about going to a SUV site but then I wouldn't beable to laugh at the ridiculous, arrogant, "I think I'm rich" crowd on this website. It just wouldn't be the same otherwise...

Byee Mr. 12...


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Hey...this is the 12 year old again. I thought about going to a SUV site but then I wouldn't beable to laugh at the ridiculous, arrogant, "I think I'm rich" crowd on this website. It just wouldn't be the same otherwise...

Byee Mr. 12...


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i'm sick of people pulling up behind me at stop lights and expect me to "floor it", when the light turns green. if and when i do, these same people ATTEMPT to catch up--which makes me laugh. this happens quite often & i'm getting tired of it. -E-


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i'm sick of people pulling up behind me at stop lights and expect me to "floor it", when the light turns green. if and when i do, these same people ATTEMPT to catch up--which makes me laugh. this happens quite often & i'm getting tired of it. -E-


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i'm sick of people pulling up behind me at stop lights and expect me to "floor it", when the light turns green. if and when i do, these same people ATTEMPT to catch up--which makes me laugh. this happens quite often & i'm getting tired of it. -E-


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To all 3000GT/Stealth Twin Turbo owners.

Don't get upset with Mustang/Firebird/Camaro Owners. Who cares if these guys rev their 5.0 and 5.7 engines at us, big deal, our cars cost 3 times the price of their cars. Just sit back relax, knowing our cars cost a lot more.

IF! (a big if) a Mustang/Firebird/Camaro beats me in a race I really don't care. I got my car for one reason and one reason only too "show-off". If I wanted a car that can kick any car's ass out there I would've got a $4000 1988 5.0 Mutstang (oops, I meant Mustang) added cheap bolt-on mods Supercharger, Exhaust etc..). But, who the hell wants a Mustang/Firebird or Camaro, there's tons of them out on the streets. Except for their loud exhaust's these cars don't get any attention.

NOTE: A stock Twin Turbo 3KGT/Stealth can beat a a muscle car(5.0, 5.7 LT1) even if it's modified. As long as the mods are only Intake and Exhaust.

Jammer 1995 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT


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That's pretty funny. Usually I don't even give Stealths a second glance. I see them everyday...People don't pay Camaros any attention except for the exhaust? Funny. If we wanted attention, we would all put 8inch coffee-can exhausts on our cars and racing stripes down the side of it that looked like they were added on by a drunk.

If it didn't bother you when Camaros, Mustangs, and Firebirds beat you, you wouldn't have even mentioned it. And apparently, people DO want these cars. They've been around for over 32 years. Where did the Stealth go? Nobody will miss the Stealth. It's a shame the 3KGT is going though, because it's a fine car....looks a hell of a lot better than the Stealth too.

RatedZ@aol.com


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Okay, I did forget to mention something....he says that a stock Stealth or 3KGT will beat a modified Camaro, Firebird, etc...maybe a modified Mustang, but it isn't beating a new 5.7L Camaro. It will not even beat the LT1 Camaro. Stop racing V6 Camaros and Firebirds. The V8s are Z28s, Formulas, and TransAms.

It is proven fact that Turbo cars are cheaper to make fast, but guess what buddy...These cars aren't all that fast in stock form. They look good, they handle good, they have ok acceleration, but guess what...they are far from fast. You've never been in fast. I've been in cars that run 10.3 in the 1/4mile and lemme tell ya something....THAT is fast. My car does nothing for me, and neither will a stock Stealth R/T or stock 3000GT VR4. Cut your crap and stick to the facts. One more thing, Mr.Racing Pro....what did YOUR car run in the 1/4mile stock?

RatedZ@aol.com


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Hey RatedZ, your car does nothing for you? That's not good considering that you probably paid good money for it. My car is not the fastest on the road, Ok I can live with that but I not even close to growing tired of it and again I bought it because it's not a lot of one thing but it's a little of everything. My car has got to do something for me or else it's gone. Like someone here in the one of the post said, it doesn't matter which car is the fastest or the most expensive. What matters is if you like it for what it is, buy it and be happy with it no matter what anybody says.

Marc's 97 VR4


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Hey guys, I think we all bought ours cars for many reasons and one of those reasons is to show off. Now, that could mean to show that you can afford an expensive car (3KGT's) or a fast car or both. Don't got me wrong, Camero's, Firebird's, Mustang's, etc., are expensive too but the VR4 tops them all in price ranges. All these cars are fast and nice lookin' in their own way. I think sometimes it's the person behind the wheels that makes one car look better than the other. If you have a good attitude about your car then your car is good in speed and style.

I work the drive-thru window (no it's not fast food) at my job so I see a lot of cars everyday. I hate it when somebody drives up in an expensive car, gives me an attitude and tells me to do something I can't do for them because of rules and policies. Plus, they're never ready for me so they hold up my line. They think that they're special because they have a cool car. No, I don't think so buddy!!! Eveytime I tell them "No" their next words are "I want to talk to the Manager! And I can't come in because I have kid with me!" Geeez, why don't they just bring their crying a$$ inside. Also, why would the kid be a problem? It wasn't a problem at the house. My two worst was this guy in a '95-'97 M3 and a guy in a '90-'93 Porche. Not all people in nice cars are like that though. One of my coolest customer drives a Ferrari 355 F1.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that we could all show off and enjoy our cars as much as possible but without the good attitude it wouldn't seem like it to the people and they wouldn't bother giving you a second look. They would think that you're just punk a$$ rich kid dork.

It's all about the attitude guys.

JT Ruffs


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RatedZ,

Obviously the Stealths around your area are probably base versions. Just today alone I ran across a million Camaros/Firebirds and a Billion Mustangs. They're all over the place. The only reason people want them, because they are cheap and fast (most bang for your buck).

You are correct all those guys with their "suped-up" Probes, Integras, Civics etc... are doing it for attention, no arrgument there. I've also seen a lot of tacky mods on Mustangs, Camaros and Firebirds.

I don't care if any of these cars beat me; "Suped-up" Integras, Probes, Civics, Mustangs, Camaro/Firbirds, I still know my car costs more than any of these cars and it's got more HP.

Where did the Stealth Go? Simple, increase of the YEN and most people that can afford Mustangs, Camaros, Firbirds can't afford a Stealth/3000GT Twin Turbo. Aren't the Camaro/Firebird being dropped in the next few years?!

I'm not racing V6 cars. My friend has a 1994 V8, 6 speed, Firebird with Borla exhaust and K&N FIPK intake. I beat him, we where both going about 60 Km/hr 2nd gear nose-to-nose we both juiced it and I went past him. There was no driver skill involved just mash the gas pedal. I don't like these cars, but after he took me for a ride, I respect V8 cars now. The Power is different than a Turbo charged car.

I'm not saying Turbo charged cars aren't easy to make fast, just up the boost level. But, you can't tell me buying an Older (1988-1995) Muscle car and putting a blower will ever cost as much as comparable year 3KGT/Stealth Twin Turbo. I'm sure if you put enough money into any car, you will get 10.3 and faster 1/4 mile results. What's your point.

"Mr. Racing Pro", can't you muscle car guys ever keep a discussion with out reverting to sarcasm and insults. I never said I was fast and I would probably have a 20 sec 1/4 mile run. I DON'T CARE!

Jammer 1995 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT


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Okay, first off, I'll address Marc's post. In the acceleration department, no, Marc, it doesn't do a whole lot for me. I've been in MUCH faster, and owned much faster. In all other aspects, it does plenty. It handles fairly well, despite the ancient live axle setup, it gets great gas mileage, it's comfortable, and it's been very reliable. I like having all power amenities, air conditioning, and an okay radio system with a cd (stock Delco/Bose). It takes money to go fast, and once it goes faster, it will suit me just fine. I won't say it is slow though. It will hold its own for the most part.

I will now comment on JTRuff's post. Yes, we all did buy our cars to show off, and paid a fairly decent amount of money for them. Isn't that one of the reasons that people buy sportscars? Whether they like to admit it or not, it IS one of the reasons. It attracts ladies, and whether you are out there TRYING to attract them, or whatever it may be....we as men love the attention. It comes with the "sportscar territory." It is fun, and it is innocent fun. I don't think anyone would disagree with me. Second of all, sure, it's a great rush of adrenalin to have a powerful car. It's a lot of fun. I would have it no other way on a nice warm summer night, or a nice cool sunny day. Unfortunately, I don't have Ttops or convertible. Next one WILL have Ttops. It definitely subtracts from the fun in the nice weather. I also agree that the attitude also attracts people.

About people thinking they are hot stuff in hot cars.........but of course! Porsche owners and M3 owners are probably the most cocky ones. There's nothing more satisfying that beating some M3 silly that thinks he's hot stuff. My favorite is when they just automatically label me as "white trash" and just look straight ahead revving their engine, leaning over the steering wheel like they've got something special....WhooooHoooooo an overpriced 318! Whooopie. They get that arrogant look on their face, etc..etc....Nothing like beating the hell outta him, then pullin up at the next light and leaning over the wheel with the arrogant look on YOUR face. It gets even better when they try and kiss your ass,"hey man, what's it got?" and you roll the window up on him.....yes, I've done it. They deserve it.

Now to top off this overly long post, I will address Jammer1995 Firestorm Stealth blah blah...NOBODY is insulting you. I think you need to go back and re-read my post. As I stated in many posts, there ARE things besides acceleration....I think people such as Marc could vouch for that.

YOU are the one that came into these messageboards trashing on Camaros, Firebirds, and Mustangs. NOT ME. I don't recall EVER trashing a 3000GT in here. I have said that they are not the fastest things, and I have never been beaten by one. That is it. Does it mean it can't happen? No it does not.

Is the Camaro/Firebird being dropped in the next couple of years? I dont think so. The new Camaro will debut at Detroit Autoshow next year. The Firebird's future is undecided. However, it could be that the Camaro will be cancelled, and once again, GM is bringing out yet ANOTHER concept that will never happen. They've been throwing the idea of a "IRS" setup for the Camaro now for years....never happened. It's hard to say what will happen. Hopefully, everyone will dump the SUV and the sportscars will be the thing to have again. Then we will see the likes of the 3000GT, Camaro, Firebird, etc..for a while longer.

Do I care if I run 20seconds in the quartermile? Yes I do. I bought the car for a rush. It's given a rush for the most part, but it just isn't enough horsepower. Understand, my firt real fast car had a big block Chevy in it....small blocks that are close to stock don't quite cut it. It's running mid/high 13s right now, but 12s would be much nicer. On street tires, the car will turn 14.1 @ 95, 14.4 @ 98, or 14.6 @ 98. On slicks, it will consistently hit 13.69s. Not too shabby, but those times would be nice on streettires...but I am no pro when it comes to racing. I'm terrible. With a better driver, no doubt the car would run 13s on street tires.


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Has any one been to the latest Auto Shows ? I went to the NY one yesterday. Some of the cars I found impressive were: - New Mustang Cobra SVT - BMW M5 (400HP) - Mercedes S500 coupe (you gotta see this one !)

There was also a red Camero SS......WOW !

Last of all was my personal dream machine.......Acura NSX.

The new Eclipse is pretty nice as well. By the way, they're holding time trials at Westhampton Speedway today. I'll let you guys know what my numbers were (I promise to be truthful).

Larry VR4


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11 Apr 1999
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RatedZ,

Obviously the 3KGT/Stealths you've been racing have either been the base versions, or the drivers didn't know how to drive. Now, don't get me wrong I'm not saying I can drive, I wouldn't be suprised if a Geo Metro kicked my ass.

Like I said in my previous post after being in a V8 car I respect the power these engines produce. But I still hate the look and the drivers of these cars. All these guys (Muscle Car Guys) think they have hot cars, when in fact, they're nothing. For example, there's an idiot who lives around my area with a 1988 convertible Mustang with "IN YOU DREAMS" written on the top of the windshield. Or the other "muscle boys" with the "NO FEAR" decals on their cars, give me a break! I'm not saying I don't "show-off", I'm probably the biggest "show-off" around. Yes, I'm one of those guys who goes downtown cruises for 3 hours with loud music. But I have a car that's worth showing- off.

OH, BTW, how much HP is that forest green, live rear axle thing putting to the ground?

OH, before I go I noticed the new Camaros are trying to look a lot like the Stealth/3KGT, what's up with that.

Jammer "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT with 18' Five spoke chrome rims.


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11 Apr 1999
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does anyone know where i can find out about getting a body kit for my 3k? any information is greatly appreciated. thanks. hawaiianisland77@hotmail.com


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11 Apr 1999
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Response to Jammer 1995's post....

OH, so THAT'S what it is. you think EVERY Musclecar driver thinks he has hot stuff huh? well, you drive a DODGE. that's right. a DODGE...and if you even wanna call it a DODGE....your Stealth is NOTHING special, and don't act like it is....are you saying that Camaros ARE NOT worth showing off? Lemme tell ya something...I busted my ass to get that car, and it IS worth showing off....now I haven't beaten VR4s and have only been racing base versions? Lemme tell ya something,I have DESTROYED 3000GT VR4s...that's right. Don't tell me it can't be done. You think your car is fast. Well guess what. It ain't.

Oh, so you HATE people because of the car they drive? You HATE me because I drive a Camaro? Let me tell ya something ya snot-nosed little punk. That's a real jackass thing to say, but coming from some little piece of crap teen like yourself, it doesn't suprise me. Do you think you'll see "No Fear" stickers on my car, or "In Your Dreams" stickers on my car? I THINK NOT. Take a look at the people driving the cars with those stickers all over it. Yeah, you think you're some badass riding around with your music loud, but lemme tell ya something....you are the people that I LOVE to beat in a race....Thinkin you're a badass in your little Stealth....Your Stealth is nothing to brag about pal.

Don't you EVER label me by the car I drive. I don't label you, and I'd appreciate it if you don't label me. Don't you EVER act like you're better than me because you THINK you drive something so much better. I got news for you. You don't.


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11 Apr 1999
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And one more thing...I apologize for the outburst, everyone, but little arrogant punks like this just get my goat. And if any of you want to see my "such a piece of worthless **** Camaro" you can see it at this address: www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Factory/8974/index.php

And buddy, if you wanna talk about this any further, have some respect for the others in this room and take it to email. I'm sure they don't need the disruption.

RatedZ@aol.com


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11 Apr 1999
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New Camaros are trying to look like the new 3KGT? Not hardly..the "big mouth" was on Camaros first....you tell me...what's up with THAT.

Live rear axle thing? Oh, I guess that's your way of TRYING to put my car down...not quite pal. Try harder....but I'm supposed to be impressed because you've got 18inch wheels on your car! Hahaha! Gimme a break. That "live axle thing" handles just fine in the twisties, and I've come across no problems. I'm sure an IRS would be a tad better in the bumps, but guess what...I can control my car...can you control yours? I'd be more than happy to meet you in the twisties any time.

Tell me something, how much horsepower is that generic 3000GT of yours putting to the ground? Oh, my fault richboy....you're probably too good to find out aren't ya?

and No, I don't know what that aqua teal metallic thing is putting to the ground....but it must be more than a Stealth with 18 inch wheels.

Have a nice day.....and we will take this discussion to email....or maybe I'm lucky and you have an America Online Account.

Once again, everyone, I apologize for the outburst.

RatedZ@aol.com


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12 Apr 1999
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RateZ,

Obvioulsy you don't know much about our cars, since the Stealth is made by Mitsubishi. Or was that DODGE comment supposed to insult me.

Oh, no problem I'll take this to private email, but I like showing other people what you "muscle car" guys are like. "Let me tell ya something ya snot-nosed little punk. That's a real jackass thing to say, but coming from some little piece of crap teen like yourself...", Oh, that's mature. Only an immature teen would say stuff like that. I try to keep the discussion civilized, but you come out here with your "I have a V8" so I think I'm hot stuff. Yeah, okay!

I don't think I ever said a Camaro/Firebird, or Mustang can't beat a 3000GT/Stealth Twin Turbo. I think I said the guys you are racing don't know how to drive. Granted your car produces more tourqe, 345 ft-lbs compared to 315 ft-lbs, than our cars but when you're smoking you rear tires the 3KGT/Stealth driver should get the jump (unless he doesn't know how to drive).

I never said I was a badass, I just like showing-off my car. I'll reiterate my previous point I wouldn't care if you beat me in a CAR race. I still know a 3KGT/Stealth Twin Turbo costs more than a Camaro/Firebird or Mustang; You know it, I know it and everybody on this list knows it (for some reason nobody wants to say anything about this point). It's no different than Porsche guys, we know our cars can out-perform most Porsches (not Twin Turbo), but do you think most Porsche owners care that a 3KGT/Stealth, Camaro/Firebird or Mustang can beat them, of course not. They have the satisfaction of knowing their cars cost more than ours. Same thing with us (3KGT/Stealth Twin Turbo owners).

I'll agree with you on one thing, these posts are getting long and off topic. After your next post I'll send you a private email and you can reply to my address.

Jammer 1995 "Firestorm Red" Stealth RT/TT. I won't mention the 18' chrome rims since not everybody is impressed by them.


Date:
13 Apr 1999
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Seems to be a bit of animosity in the air as of late. Some of you seem to be forgetting the purpose of this site. "War Stories" are a small part of the discussions. Wouldn't we all benifit by helping each other when a question arises ?? ie.Hawaiian Island wants to know where he can get a body kit ! can any one help him ?

My sugesstion is to try a place called "Phantom City" in CA, or "Eastern Auto" in Queens NY. Sorry I don't have the phone numbers for you, but you may want to try a search on the Internet (HOTBOT is your best bet)

Someone else wanted to know about removing a resonator bottle ? Any comments ? So, whattya say guys ? Can we trade the boxing gloves for a nice pair of calf skin driving gloves ?

By the way Rated Z, is "Geocities" your site ? I looked at it briefly the other day.....prety neat !

Larry expensive/likebeingseenin/no,I'mnotbetterthanyou/camerosmaybefaster/yes,yourcarisverynicealso VR4 (there,that should cover everybody)


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13 Apr 1999
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Larry, yes, the Geocities site is my page....thanks for the compliment.

Now I will respond to Jammer's posting: (here we go)

First off, Mr.Jammer, YOU are the one that thinks you are hot stuff. I NEVER claimed to have a better car. Did I know that Mitsi made the Stealth? Ummm, yeah, I did.

YOU are the one that came in here attacking the owners of Musclecars and saying how they think they are badasses. So sorry you feel that way, but don't go stereotyping everyone that drives one. The little punks running around in Hondas think they are the hot stuff....now THAT is funny.

YOU are the one that said "I have a car worth showing off." Oh, and I don't? Pretty funny, considering I took 2nd place in the late-model category at the ONLY show that I ever attended. Yeah, yeah, big deal, I know. The only reason I didn't take first was because of a brand new 30th Anniversary Z28 that came rolling in.....Well let's see what his car looks like when it's 5 years old. There were around 15 cars in this category, so I don't think 2nd place is so bad. And my car WAS a daily driver at the time. There are only 668 cars made like mine, so I think that's PLENTY reason to show off, whether people know what they are looking at or not....and in most cases, they don't have a clue. They just think it's a V6 Camaro. I kinda like the fact that not too many people know what they are looking at. It's part of the fun of owning it. There is NOTHING like when some idiot in a Mustang thinking he's hot pulls up and starts laughing, and then gets blown away and at the redlight I just turn and say "ain't laughin now are ya?" It's great.

YOU are the one that said that Camaros, Firebirds, etc....can NOT beat a 3000GTVR4, and that I must be running base models. Hey, you said it, not me. Have I ever been beaten by a Stealth or 3000GT? Nope, but there's a first for everything. It just hasn't happened yet.

About price....I believe I've stated before that I KNOW that a Stealth RT/TT and 3000GTVR4 cost more than my car. Is that an issue? I don't think so. Do you think anyone cares? I doubt it.

If you were trying to carry on a civilized conversation, It would have gone over a bit smoother if you wouldn't make your stereotypical posts about other people because of the car they choose to drive. I could just as easily labe you a "riceboy" because you have 18inch wheels on your car. Does it mean you have 2 8inch cannons for exhaust pipes, and racing stripes down the side of it? No.

Thank you.

RatedZ@aol.com


Date:
13 Apr 1999
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Just one thing about the Camaro and the VR4. These are two different cars. The VR4 is a luxury GT that should be compared to the Mercedes CLK, Porsche 911 and the Lexus SC400. All of these cars have a ton of anemities and technology. The Camaro is a MUSCLE CAR. It is built for one thing, SPEED. In most Camaros, if any, you won't find leather, CD player, all-wheel drive, all-wheel steering and chrome rims, all STANDARD. With the Camaro, you get just enough interior to keep you comfortable while you drive your foot through the floor. So, while the VR4 and Stealth TT are more expensive than the Camaro, it's also more car than the Camaro.

Marc's 97 VR4


Date:
14 Apr 1999
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH MARC! YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! The Camaro is made for one thing.......SPEED....well, unless you get the 1LE Package, which is the SCCA Racing package....they handle VERY well, and quite impressively also.....but it's still got that livfe axle setup.

Camaros come with some nice standard amenities...air, 4wheel disc brakes (starting in 1998), automatic (no fun, but can get 6spd at no charge). A lot of Camaros (Z28s) are ordered from the factory by dealerships with power windows, leather, and cdplayer, however, but no, these are NOT standard equipment.....same with the TransAm...that rear high-rise wing is an OPTION, not standard. However, dealerships usually order the T/A with the high-rise wing. Chrome rims were options on both models.

The Camaro shouldn't be compared to the 3000GT as you stated. Its competition is the Mustang, and Mustang only....for now anyway.


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14 Apr 1999
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I am looking for a new car and I have heard great things about the VR-4. It has luxury as well as great speeds. I recently purchased a 97 Dodge Viper GTS, red,with the 17" 5 star polished aluminum alloy rims, and the big a$$ V-10( it is loud as hell fire boy I tell you what it will roast ye ass a good set) I purchased it from Elite Motors, the leader of exotic vehichles in Middle TN. I spent the entire first week just smoking ass on every car I found. I would be extatic when I would get poll position on ANY, and I mean ANY, car at a red light. Wether it was a Camaro SS, Mustang Cobra, or even a piece of sh!t 82 Blue Cavalier I would stomp it and embarass the driver completly.

I will never forget that faithful night in April It was the 11th to be exact. I was rolling around town with my girlfriend smokin stuff to impress her. I got poll position as always and the greatest sight I have ever to behold in my 23 years of living slide like a well lubed penis right beside me. It was an 89 GMC Jimmy 15X8 American Racing rims, blue dome lights, AVS AND GTO blackouts fog lights, a Pionear Supertuner CD player with 2, count them, 2 JL Audio 10" subwoofers and a Moble Spec 100X2 amp. I was in awwe at this beautiful piece of American motor sports history. The man driving could be no more than 17 years old. He had a noose hanging from the rear-view mirror so I knew he ment buisiness, or he was racist. I am completly hetorosexual but the driver was such a handsome and forcful looking man I wanted him, and by the wet spot in my girls pants she did too. His friend was starring a hole through my head, or maybe it was my girls breasts...anyway....he was a handsome broot as well. I made the motion to run them...they made the hell's bells pig face( I have so named becuz it looked like a pig from hell it is made by placing the thumb and 4 finger on the top and bottom of the cheeks and squeezing, then stick out the tounge and make a god awful screech like this.WEEEEEEEEEE)

My heart was pounding, my palms sweaty, and my girl was nervous the light transformed from the god cursed red to the ever illuminating green.....we both punched it I launched with minimal amount of spin so as to get the better take off, but he jumped my ass on take off and kept on going, he smoked me bad.

I couldn't belive it...my immortal GTS had been beaten by a GMC Jimmy, old body style at that.

Well, as the story goes my girl jumped out of the VIper got in with them and I haven't talked to her since. My friends and family ridiculed me after hearing of the defeat. Elite motors FORCED me to sell it back to them.

Retelling this story has undone all the times I spent in therepy...I am no longer in the mood to get a new car

This will be my last post as I am now sitting in my parents basement at my computer desk with .38 Special in my mouth.

My last and final thought is this.............

Damn that Jimmy all to hell

Good bye Cruel World.


Date:
14 Apr 1999
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Thinking about getting lighter rims for my car. I would imagine that this won't help performance much, if any but does anyone know if this will improve handling, etc.

Thanks in advance.

Marc's 97 VR4


Date:
15 Apr 1999
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Guys, before I got into this site I didn't know much about Cameros, Firebirds, and Mustangs. Everybody I've met always told me that the VR4 was a better car than those three so I've never compared them together. I still don't know much about them. All I knew was that they all have V6's and V8's, but I couldn't tell the difference. The only cars I've compared mine with are the Supra's, 300ZX's, and RX7's. They all have the same V6, 3.0L engine, and similar HP's. You know if the V8's are the only ones that could match up to those imported cars I'd just mention, doesn't that say something about the American Muscle Cars? Shouldn't the V8 American Muscle Cars be better because of a bigger engine? Is that the same of comparing a Integra/Civic to a VR4? Just imagin if the imported cars had V8's.

I'm just wondering. I'm not mocking anybody. Please tell me.

JTRuffs


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15 Apr 1999
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Marc, I recently put a set of Fitapaldi Tubolares on my VR4. The rims are much lighter than the stock 18" chrome ones. I honestly think it made a difference in the handling, since it seemed to have changed the unsprung weight a bit (or, it could just be the placebo effect). Anyway, they sure look a hell of a lot better than the he stock ones. The Fitapaldis don't seem to flex as much, and I'm sure the weight makes a some slight difference.

Larry VR4

p.s. Rated Z, I'll be sending you a seperate e mail, I want to find out more about your site !


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15 Apr 1999
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Larry, sounds great....

About the new Viper owner.....Anyone that talks like that DEFINITELY doesn't own a Viper, or is he just a rich sleezebag? I think i'll go with the 1st thought.......he doesn't own a Viper......or if he does, it's a 1/18scale diecast.


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15 Apr 1999
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I would like to reply to that last post....

I am sure that guy does own a viper...he did know a lot about the rims and engine ( I just love that line about " burn ye ass a set"...its a classic)

If he doesn't own a viper, he should write a book, that was the best story I have ever read.


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15 Apr 1999
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I would like to reply to that last post....

I am sure that guy does own a viper...he did know a lot about the rims and engine ( I just love that line about " burn ye ass a set"...its a classic)

If he doesn't own a viper, he should write a book, that was the best story I have ever read.

Mr. Shicadance


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15 Apr 1999
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I am the proud owner of a 98 Toyota Supra Turbo. I've had my eye on the VR-4 for some time. I have raced quite a few 3000 with the outcome being wins and losses about equally.

I am some what of a quarter mile race addict. I love racing anything...wether it will smoke my ass, be a good even race, or I blow its lug nuts off; either way I just love the thrill of the race.

My favorite race was my car against a 97 VR-4. On the take off I spun just enough to give the 3k the uperhand. I managed to catch up to him and we were dead even for 3/4 of the race. At the very second I pulled ahead and won by a fender.

We chatted about the race for a few seconds and I could tell he was upset about the loss. After bidding him farewell I went to Blockbuster video to return Fanka and Lucy has a Ball ( 2 excelent movies, Oscar contintion)

Next while traveling to the car wash by the Kings Table I saw a pecular wreck between a tight Maxima and a piece of sh!t old school 300ZX. It seem the girl in the Z was driving with out her lights on. I felt I should stop and be a witness for the poor handsome fellows in the Maxima but I decided to be a a$$hole and just honk my horn and roll by. Little did I know I was in for the race of my life.

While sitting in the left lane of a red light listening to Hands ( the slaveship remix) I heard a rumbling that made my heart race and my 2inch swollen member stand at attenion. What was this creeping up adjacent to me? an Nsx? a 550 Maranello? a Turbo S maybe? When the vehichle cut his parking barke, did a perfect 360 and slid beside me it put all the other cars to shame. It was an 89 GMC Jimmy 15X8 American Racing rims, blue dome lights, AVS AND GTO blackouts fog lights, a Pionear Supertuner CD player with 2, count them, 2 JL Audio 10" subwoofers and a Moble Spec 100X2 amp.

There resting in the drivers seat was a man, a real man, no more than 17 years old but with eyes that held the depths of many years before him. He was waving with both hands and honking the horn with his gigantic 2 foot long schlong. In the pasengers seat was David Blaine. He stuck a pencil through his tongue and fliped me a bird

He never said a word but I knew that motion ment he wanted to run them. We bothed reved and prepared to dance the dance I had so many times before. He jumped me on takeoff and just kept on going. He smoked me bad. I could have sworn that all 4 tires were spinning too.

The next day I grew a vagina and beat my slaves.

I relized that in the end only cotton matters.


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16 Apr 1999
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I have only one question: What's with this 89 Jimmy everyone seems to be talking about ?? Is this some kind of a mythical ghost vehicle or am I missing something ? Does it exsist, and where is it ? It reminds me of stories we used to hear about some red headed Marine that defected and led NVA trrops into battle. Guys swore they saw him !

So tell me, is there really a Jimmy, or are you guys joking ?

Larry VR4


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16 Apr 1999
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I don't have a war story but all I wanted to say is that 3000gt's suck big flaming nuts.


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16 Apr 1999
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09:41:53
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I don't have a war story but all I wanted to say is that 3000gt's suck big flaming nuts.

cck


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16 Apr 1999
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09:42:16
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I don't have a war story but all I wanted to say is that 3000gt's suck big flaming nuts.

cck


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16 Apr 1999
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I don't have a war story but all I wanted to say is that 3000gt's suck big flaming nuts.

cck Pinto


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16 Apr 1999
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To start off...I think our 12yr old has returned.

Now, for once I have a warstory hehe! Here goes:

Two nights ago I was cruising Main St. (why are all cruising streets Main St.?) and as I was turning off to go back around and make another pass, I noticed something black, something nasty looking, something Darth Vader-like. It appeared to be a Grand National with very wide tires in the rear, and skinnies up front. I looked in my mirror, PRAYING that he would not see me and hunt me down as his next victim. Just as I feared, here he came.

He pulled up next to me, but didn't bother to look over. He just nailed his gas, and from his exhaust came a sheering roar. It was so loud, I was tempted to roll up my passengerside window (I was in left lane). I looked back up, and it was not a Grand National, but a "GN-Style" Grand Prix. I would estimate it being a mid-80s model. We came towards a redlight, and he nailed his gas once more. Then he got off it. Then I did the same. There was traffic in front, so we couldn't race (yet). As we came to a stop, he still looked straight ahead with the typical "I'm a badass" look on his face, and too conceited to look over. His car sat there loping erratically, shivering from side to side. It was NOT the stock 305 under the hood. It sounded more like a worked 350.

We turned the corner at the light, and he got in front of me. I noticed his dual exhaust. There were two mufflers under his car, but what appeared to be very small pipes under the car. He got in the right lane on Main St., and I took to the left. We toyed back and forth for a while. When it was time to turn again, he followed me AGAIN. He was not going to let up until I raced him. The same thing goes on again, and he STILL has his "I'm a badass" grin on his face, just looking straight ahead like the cocky s.o.b. he was/is.

This time, when we got to the end of Main St., I was going to make another pass, but I saw that he was not. I quickly got over and decided that I was gonna give this cocky s.o.b. the best run I could. I couldn't let him get away feeling cocky without seeing him prove how bad his car was.

It was a 2lane straight road. Right off of Main St. the cops like to hang out, so I was not about to run him there. He let his car jump, and rev his motor some more, etc.....He finally decided to get in front of me, so I let him. I start to follow him. We rode up the hwy about 2miles, and he got in the turning lane. I followed. There was no traffic, and he went very slow, as to wait for me. I quickly abliged him, and took to the inside lane. We were going about 10mph, and he decided to nail the gas. I did the same, at the same time. To my suprise, I jumped 2 cars on him, and kept going. He was NOT going to catch up. I was quite proud of myself. He pulled up next to me again, still with that cocky grin on his face....He doesn't learn. I just revved and looked at him with a sneer on my face, as if I was mocking him (which I was). I stared right at him smiling, and snickering. He proceeded to just look straight ahead. Then he hits the gas again, and goes flying by me. He does this, and them slams his brakes on. As he does this, I notice his girlie is with him (always best in front of the woman). He wants to run again, so of course I ablige. THIS TIME, I decide I'm going to add insult to his loss. We take off, and it is the same outcome, but only this time, I stick my arm out the window and wave "bye bye."

I slow down, and get next to him, and start revving the engine laughing at him, and mocking him once more. He tries to keep his cocky look on his face, but he is trying real hard not to look over. I could tell by his neck muscles straining, and his eyes wandering. I KNOW he saw me laughing at him. I slow down some more, he slows more than I do. I slow to his pace, and he drops back even further...This is when he turns off and I don't see him again. Cocky s.o.bs like them are the ones that are a joy to beat. His girlfriend probably said to him, "See that, you tried to be a cocky badass and you got just what you deserved!"

The moral of this true story: All because your opponent's car SOUNDS faster, LOOKS faster, and is louder, does NOT mean it IS faster.


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17 Apr 1999
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Hey, "big flaming nuts" ?? sounds like a cool performance option ! Do they replace the stock flaming nuts ? Once again, I'm going to TRY to get to WestHampton track today. That is if I can get all my "Honey-Do" chores done. Does anyone have any truthful information on 1/4 mile runs ? Other than the guy that ran a base GT in 12 seconds ?(the car was apparently attached to one of those astronaut rocket sled training devices). If I run more than 15 seconds, I can sign off as the guy that had the 4 passengers in his VR4. I had the chance to run another M3 the other day. It was on a fairly deserted stretch of road that runs paralell to the coast line (Long Island). On a straight acceleration run, I was way ahead of the guy, he just couldn't catch up. Getting off the exit ramp was another story.......what the hell makes those M3's handle so well ?? It was like the guy had Crazy Glue on his tires !!

Larry VR4


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17 Apr 1999
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Larry, what makes the M3 handle so well, besides the large soft tires, is the way that the suspension is set up. It also has a lot to do with the chassis dynamics of the car. M3s are not all that wide in appearance. They sure do fool ya in the corners though! They can definitely handle with the best of them.


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18 Apr 1999
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Well, finally made it to the track today. Unfortunatly, I was only able to make one run. The place was a madhouse ! All kinds of fuelies, modifides, etc. very few street legal/stock autos.

I was hoping for at least 3 passes, but due to the "heavies", I kind of had to rush it a bit. I'm sure I could've done better.

And now the news you've all been waiting for: 14.071/96.239

How humbling.......

Larry VR4


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18 Apr 1999
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Larry, 14.0 is nothing to be ashamed of if your car is mildly modified, or stock. The thing weighs close to 3700lbs. What did you expect? 96mph and running 14.0 is not a bad time. You got nearly no wheelspin. That AWD launch always helps though.

A buddy of mine has a 1993 TransAm he converted into a WS6, and ended up running a 14.0 @ 93mph....Sounds crazy doesn't it? I didn't believe it either until he showed me the slip. He must have just hooked and went. I couldn't do that if I tried. I've run a best of 14.1 @ 95, and worsts of 14.4 @ 98.11 and 14.6 @ 97.96. It's not bad for a car with an automatic, and mild upgrades. I have a big problem with launching the car. My 60ft times are ALWAYS in the mid 2.5s or so. My best 60ft time is a 2.233 or something like that. The car would definitely run 13.6s on slicks or BFG Drag Radials. I'm confident of that.

What was your 60ft time? What was your 1/8 time and mph? what was your r/t time?


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19 Apr 1999
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My times were:

60 ft - 2.142 330 ft - 5.885 660 ft - 9.027 @ 78.249 mph

E.T. - 14.071 MPH - 96.239

I was hoping to turn at least mid to high 13's and at least break 100mph.

The only mod I have is a K&N Filtercharger Kit. I'm wondering if a Borla system along with an Alamo downpipe would shave a half second or so off. I don't want to get into to many other modifications other than bolt-ons....well maybe an HKS blow off valve.

Anybody out there have success with the above add-ons ?

Larry VR4


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19 Apr 1999
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My times were:

60 ft - 2.142 330 ft - 5.885 660 ft - 9.027 @ 78.249 mph

E.T. - 14.071 MPH - 96.239

I was hoping to turn at least mid to high 13's and at least break 100mph.

The only mod I have is a K&N Filtercharger Kit. I'm wondering if a Borla system along with an Alamo downpipe would shave a half second or so off. I don't want to get into to many other modifications other than bolt-ons....well maybe an HKS blow off valve.

Anybody out there have success with the above add-ons ?

Larry VR4

p.s. Just in case any non-turbo times come into question, here's what I did when I had my Base 93 3KGT:

16.643 @ 85.308 mph


Date:
19 Apr 1999
Time:
18:34:01
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My times were:

60 ft - 2.142 330 ft - 5.885 660 ft - 9.027 @ 78.249 mph

E.T. - 14.071 MPH - 96.239

I was hoping to turn at least mid to high 13's and at least break 100mph.

The only mod I have is a K&N Filtercharger Kit. I'm wondering if a Borla system along with an Alamo downpipe would shave a half second or so off. I don't want to get into to many other modifications other than bolt-ons....well maybe an HKS blow off valve.

Anybody out there have success with the above add-ons ?

Larry VR4

p.s. Just in case any non-turbo times come into question, here's what I did when I had my Base 93 3KGT:

16.643 @ 85.308 mph


Date:
20 Apr 1999
Time:
07:09:30
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Larry,

I guess you probably needed a few runs to get a better E.T.. I wonder what Motor Trend and Car and Driver are doing to get 13.5 - 13.8 et's @ 99 - 101.6 mph from a stock VR4? When you posted your time, I was shocked because I know the car can do better. I have never taken my car to a track but I wouldn't mind doing it so that I can really open her up. Checked out those rims you mentioned a few post back and I bet those rims look awesome on the car. On InfoSeek, there was mention of a guy in Florida that replaced his downpipe, mufflers and air filter with aftermarket products and ran a 13.1 @107 mph. That's Supra and Corvette territory for under $1500 adding about 60-70 horsepower. I contemplating this purchase but I'm not sure. All that power might go to my head. :)

Marc's 97 VR4


Date:
20 Apr 1999
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08:10:22
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Larry, the truth is, that Car and Driver NEVER posted these times. They claimed that a STOCK LT1 Camaro SS ran a 13.6 in stock trim, with 305-310 horsepower.

In a few runs, they got professional dragracers to run the cars, and they mustered no better than around 96mph in the 1/4mile. THEN Car and Driver put their driver behind the wheel, and he "miraculously" turned in times of over 100mph. These cars couldn't hit 100mph in stock trim if it were a cold day in hell. I saw a 1997 WS6 TransAm, and 3 30th Anniverary Camaro SS models at the track a few years back, and they were ALL bone stock. They didn't do better than a high 14.2. I know AT LEAST one of these people knew how to launch.

A downpipe, and an exhaust would help greatly, but I doubt you will gain 1 second from just two mods. I would also get a bleed-off valve, and maybe up the boost a little bit. This would definitely put you in the mid 13s, if not quicker.

RatedZ@aol.com


Date:
20 Apr 1999
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16:06:09
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Larry,

If you want to get into the low 13s or into the 12s I suggest that you get a boost controller and raise the boost up to 14 max. You can probably get a used boost contoller for about $300. From what I here most people say that the borla exhaust(or other brands)do not help your quarter mile times unless you get into other upgrades like bigger turbos and fuel injectors. The stock exhaust is good for stock turbos. A K&N filter, boost controller, and maybe a test pipe should give you over 400 gross horsepower and get you into the 12s for little money.

good luck


Date:
20 Apr 1999
Time:
22:59:05
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Here's one for y'all. I was driving my 92 VR4 from Florida to Michigan. It was 3am on northbound I-75 in Tennessee (about 5 miles from Kentucky line)where myself and a Cadilac were cruising at a steady 120mph ( you know, the average cruising speed for a VR4). Suddenly, as I passed, I thought I saw headlights pointing out of the median. Sure enough I looked back and saw headlights, only now there were headlights and bubblegums. Knowing that I was near the boarder, I thought to myself, "I'm not gonna let this guy catch me" so I turned off my lights and pulled back on my high beam lever. At the same time I stuck it into 3rd to squeeze the last 15mph out that I could. At that point I was at 135 and had totaly blown away the Cadilac. I just kept going (in 4th) until I hit the state line, then slowed to the speed limit until my heart rate returned to normal levels. Well, I'm pretty sure that the Cadi got busted so if by any chance you are reading this.....SUCKER


Date:
21 Apr 1999
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07:00:14
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That's a pretty good story! I had something like that happen to me once. I was driving in Delaware through this town called Elsmere. The cops are very strict there, and I was going around 37 in a 35. Wouldn't you know a smoky decides to put the lights on, and pursue me?! The Elsmere border was about 2 lights up, so I laid on the gas of the little 1984 Plymouth Colt, giving the 4 horsepower motor all it was worth. He was gaining quick, but I was too far ahead of him to even get a plate. The first light turned yellow. The second one had just turned green when I got to it. If I were in Elsemere for about 15 more seconds, I would have been busted.


Date:
22 Apr 1999
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12:16:04
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I don't think that a 3700 pound car would have any problems getting to 100 mph in the quarter mile. I understand that if you make 3,5,7 or 9 runs at it, that your going to have different times and speeds, that's why I mentioned to Larry that if he had more opportunities to make more than 2 runs, he definitely would have hit 100 mph. Once those tires become soft after running 5 or 6 passes, the car would gain more grip which would give a better start. As far as Car and Driver getting professional drivers to make the runs and the magazine changes the data, I can't accuse them of that. I read the magazine, they said the car runs ??.? @ ??? mph. There's no reason not to believe them unless they publish something like a 99 VW Jetta running a 12.0 quarter mile @ 120.0 mph in stock trim. That's not believable.

Marc's 97 VR4


Date:
22 Apr 1999
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19:12:51
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Marc, given the power/weight ratio, a stock VR4 will probably not quite hit 100mph. The drivetrain sucks up an average of 18% of the power, just through the transmission. That is in a rear wheel drive car. As you are aware, the VR4 is AWD, thus, the drivetrain probably soaks up a lot more.

However, even if it doesn't hit 100mph, NOTHING beats the AWD Launch. The Launch is where the VR4 shines. This would net the VR4 a low 14 second quartermile, or possibly a very high 13. A buddy of mine has a 93TransAm that he converted into a WS6....he's got some suspension work done, and a few minor mods. He has turned 14.0 @ 93. I've seen the slips so I know he is not lying. With traction, the VR4 should AT LEAST do this.

A few years ago, I was watching dragracing on TV. There was a Turbo Regal on it that ran a mid 11 at 108mph....It's all traction.


Date:
23 Apr 1999
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07:26:15
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Thanks for all the information Marc. I guess 14/96 is not so bad after all. I sure would have liked to get one of those "100 MPH Club" patches they offer at the track. Maybe next time I'll do better.

Larry VR4


Date:
23 Apr 1999
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10:03:58
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Hey Larry,

If I knew of a track in the Chicago area where I could run my car, I wouldn't mind trying a couple of runs myself. I'll get it up to 100 mph in the quarter even if I have to push it. Seriously though, 14.0 @ 96mph is not bad for a rushed first run. Keep pushing for the "100" mark and I'm sure you'll get it.

Marc's 97 VR4


Date:
23 Apr 1999
Time:
14:23:22
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Marc, try running your car at the new track in Joliet. I hear it is very nice.

If you don't go there, another one that probably won't be too far is Great Lakes Dragaway, in Union Grove, Wisconsin. The track sucks though, I must warn you. However they charge an arm and a leg to run.....outrageous amount like $21 or so....I raced Cecil County Dragway in Maryland a few weeks ago..$10 for admission and racing all night.

RatedZ@aol.com


Date:
24 Apr 1999
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21:37:22
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Mark,

I have a buddy in Itasca that used to really be into cars. I'll give him a call and ask if he knows of any tracks in the area. Aside from speed options, does anyone need info on cleaning/detailing products ? I must have every product known to man and then some. Let me know if anyone wants some tips !

Larry VR4


Date:
25 Apr 1999
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14:14:37
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Larry, sure, send me some info on some good detailing and cleaning products. the paint on my car looks horrible.....typical of GM's poor quality paintjobs.


Date:
25 Apr 1999
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14:15:48
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Larry, send me some info on good cleaning and detailing products...i fogot to mention who to send the info too!

RatedZ@aol.com


Date:
26 Apr 1999
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09:13:22
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Some of the cleaners I've found work really well are:

"Gliptone" car wash - Leaves a great shine. "Maguires" Final Inspection - This is a detailing mist. You should use it after you wash and wax your car. It gets rid of any wax you may have missed during the buffing process. You can also use this when you "clay" your finish. It leaves a much higher gloss than "Body Shine" (the blue liquid that comes in the "Clay Magic" kit.

By the way, you should wash your car, then clay it and THEN wax it. The wax I find the best is "Armorall" brand. Forget the carnubas and the Zymol's etc. Armorall is a silicon based wax that goes on easy, dries to a nice haze, comes off VERY easy, AND leaves one of the best wet look shines around.

For tires, use Armorall in the summer (it leaves a nice shine and doesn't fly off as soon as you drive. Stoners is ok in the winter. It adheres when the weather is cool and doesn't sling off. In the summer it doesn't dry as well, and winds up on your fender wells instead of your tires.

As far as the pain on your car Z.GM has never gotten that right. They make great looking FAST reliable cars, but should spend some reseach $$ on the finishes. If the paint is just dulled and not alligatored, take it to a reputable detail shop. Have them restore the finish, and the products I recommended above will keep it that way.

For wheels, just use the Gliptone when you wash, but use a seperate mit or wool sponge for them. You don't want to spread all that gime and gook on the body of your car.

For the interior, use Lexol leather cleaner on the seats. Rub it in with a soft brush. Then rub on some leather conditioner, let dry and buff.

For upolstery and carpets, use Simple Green diluted 50/50 with water. Did a medium soft brush in the soultion and srub gently.

You don't have to spend a fortun on all these fancilly packaged items (trust me I speak from experience). The stuff I mentioned above works great !! This is based on 20 years of experience and testing every product made. Now you know why my wife calls me psychotic when it comes to my car....



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